For clarification, are skywest flights Delta-operated, or only Delta-marketed and ticketed?
I regularly fly a skywest route and use the lounge with an Amex platinum. It is on a plane with the Delta logo on it, but it is not operated by Delta. |
Since I rarely fly any airline but DL, needing a DL ticket will not be a complicating factor for me.
What I will really miss is the access to partner lounges... both domestically an international. Recently flew a number of times on Virgin Australia. Having access to their lounges was a great boon. I was even able to guest in my wife on my Sky Club membership... even better treatment than DL would have provided me. |
Originally Posted by johndoe123
(Post 29141502)
For clarification, are skywest flights Delta-operated, or only Delta-marketed and ticketed?
I regularly fly a skywest route and use the lounge with an Amex platinum. It is on a plane with the Delta logo on it, but it is not operated by Delta. |
Originally Posted by enviroian
(Post 29068228)
Meh this is nothing. United did this what, two years ago? It affected me exactly zero times. How many times are you flying domestically NOT flying Delta? If you are flying someone else is there even DL club at that airport?
NOthing to see here folks, move along please. |
Originally Posted by xiphoid76
(Post 29220309)
This is a deal breaker for me to end my membership :(
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Originally Posted by xiphoid76
(Post 29220309)
Many times unfortunately for me. I live in a Delta hub - MSP, but work for the government and have to fly whatever contract they get for the cheapest which is frustratingly not Delta - about 1-2 times a month I fly non-Delta flights and have enjoyed the Sky Club lounge to get breakfast and relax before a flight. This is a deal breaker for me to end my membership :(
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Originally Posted by xiphoid76
(Post 29220309)
Many times unfortunately for me. I live in a Delta hub - MSP, but work for the government and have to fly whatever contract they get for the cheapest which is frustratingly not Delta - about 1-2 times a month I fly non-Delta flights and have enjoyed the Sky Club lounge to get breakfast and relax before a flight. This is a deal breaker for me to end my membership :(
Do you have an Am Ex Plat or Priority pass? If you have an Am Ex Plat you can use the Escape lounge at MSP (unfortunately they no longer take PP) or you can use PP for a credit at the PGA lounge at MSP. |
I see Delta rolling this back when a ton of people drop their memberships. It would have made sense in a world when every DM automatically got a membership, but now with the number of DMs being reduced, and access becoming an optional benefit, it simply does not make sense.
I don't really understand this move. The SkyClubs are not overcrowded anymore, at least not as badly as they used to be. |
The frustrating thing is that the crowded Sky clubs are the Hub airports. If you are in a Hub you are most likely flying Delta, so this rule doesn't help. The uncrowded sky clubs are BNA, IND, ORD, MEM, etc and all these are very useful when you are flying another airline.
This rule will annoy Delta's business traveller passengers and IMO do little change of overcrowding at the hubs |
Originally Posted by WWads
(Post 29222969)
I see Delta rolling this back when a ton of people drop their memberships. It would have made sense in a world when every DM automatically got a membership, but now with the number of DMs being reduced, and access becoming an optional benefit, it simply does not make sense.
I don't really understand this move. The SkyClubs are not overcrowded anymore, at least not as badly as they used to be. |
Originally Posted by SteveinA2
(Post 29224538)
The frustrating thing is that the crowded Sky clubs are the Hub airports. If you are in a Hub you are most likely flying Delta, so this rule doesn't help. The uncrowded sky clubs are BNA, IND, ORD, MEM, etc and all these are very useful when you are flying another airline.
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Originally Posted by enviroian
(Post 29068228)
Nothing to see here folks, move along please.
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Originally Posted by gaugeguy
(Post 29067851)
I wonder what they will do for those of us who have lifetime memberships. We were grandfathered in as executive memberships.
Spoken by a Flying Colonel with lifetime club membership (not!). |
I'm no attorney, but do Lifetime Members have any legal ground to stand on by suing Delta (ideally as a group) for reneging on the terms of the original membership purchased from NWA, which Delta purchased (including all assets and liabilities)?
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Originally Posted by bostonbali
(Post 29331987)
I'm no attorney, but do Lifetime Members have any legal ground to stand on by suing Delta (ideally as a group) for reneging on the terms of the original membership purchased from NWA, which Delta purchased (including all assets and liabilities)?
Make sure you demand that they give you access even without a same-day BP like NW used to do (and maybe try to get them to re-open the old pre-security World Club at DCA too!). And don't forget to include the folks with lifetime Pan Am Clipper Club memberships -- http://forum.elliott.org/threads/pan...629/post-13071 |
Originally Posted by Collierkr
(Post 29071172)
We are splitting hairs here... United does now require same day boarding pass to enter a UC. 2 years ago this was not a requirement.
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Originally Posted by trouble747
(Post 29333150)
Pretty huge difference between simply requiring a boarding pass for ANY airline and requiring one for United. And how often is anyone at the airport beyond security without a boarding pass??
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Originally Posted by StayingHomeIsBetter
(Post 29331629)
I regret that you may learn that, at times, DL has a rather novel concept of what "lifetime" means.
Spoken by a Flying Colonel with lifetime club membership (not!). |
Originally Posted by Collierkr
(Post 29335322)
UA policy would come into play on certain red eye flights that board one day and land the next thus preventing UC access after arrival. It comes down to definition of a boarding pass |
A paid lounge membership should be a lounge membership, not lounge access. When I was a SC member I used the SC when I flew other airlines.
This makes credit card based lounge access much more valuable. |
Originally Posted by meh130
(Post 29337638)
A paid lounge membership should be a lounge membership, not lounge access. When I was a SC member I used the SC when I flew other airlines.
This makes credit card based lounge access much more valuable. |
Originally Posted by StayingHomeIsBetter
(Post 29331629)
I regret that you may learn that, at times, DL has a rather novel concept of what "lifetime" means.
Spoken by a Flying Colonel with lifetime club membership (not!). |
Originally Posted by meh130
(Post 29337638)
A paid lounge membership should be a lounge membership, not lounge access. When I was a SC member I used the SC when I flew other airlines.
This makes credit card based lounge access much more valuable. This also makes the medallion choice benefit of the sky club membership a lot less valuable. |
I predict that DL will roll this back when a bunch of people at competitive stations cancel their memberships and opt for AA or UA.
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Originally Posted by LBJ
(Post 29067903)
It hasn't technically been "whenever" for awhile now. They've required that you have a same day flight (any airline) for several years.
Not correct. I sometimes use Sky Clubs when flying another airline, or even when coming to the airport for a meeting, and the lounge staff have regularly gone out of their way to emphasize that this is permissible with a paid membership. In fact, I’m in the ORD Sky Club right now even though I flew in on United (on a nonstop route that Delta does not fly — though I did fly DL transcon yesterday). I always point out when I’m not on Delta, and the lounge checkers are unfailingly polite in telling me that I’m warmly welcome with my lifetime Sky Club card. Today the receptionist explained that one year from now the Sky Club policy will change, and anyone using the club must have a same-day Delta (or SkyTeam, presumably) boarding pass. This does seem to violate the contract I have with them; I paid to be a Club member, not an “occasionally when it suits Delta” club member. I dropped some serious cash to buy this access. |
Originally Posted by Horizons
(Post 29338319)
Not correct. I sometimes use Sky Clubs when flying another airline, or even when coming to the airport for a meeting, and the lounge staff have regularly gone out of their way to emphasize that this is permissible with a paid membership. In fact, I’m in the ORD Sky Club right now even though I flew in on United (on a nonstop route that Delta does not fly — though I did fly DL transcon yesterday). I always point out when I’m not on Delta, and the lounge checkers are unfailingly polite in telling me that I’m warmly welcome with my lifetime Sky Club card. Today the receptionist explained that one year from now the Sky Club policy will change, and anyone using the club must have a same-day Delta (or SkyTeam, presumably) boarding pass. This does seem to violate the contract I have with them; I paid to be a Club member, not an “occasionally when it suits Delta” club member. I dropped some serious cash to buy this access. If someone has a lifetime membership they should honor the original T&C of the agreement. But I wouldn't be surprised if Delta doesn't. I signed up for a three year membership back when I was PM and was told that if I made diamond during that period the remaining portion of the membership would be tacked on after I lost the diamond status. Delta changed their policy on that so I spent money on a three year membership that only gave me six months of benefits:( |
As long as the US court system is so stacked against individuals, contracts with large corporations are basically one-way streets.
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Originally Posted by jamesteroh
(Post 29338527)
If someone has a lifetime membership they should honor the original T&C of the agreement. But I wouldn't be surprised if Delta doesn't.
Life SkyClub members were grandfathered in with Executive membership. A very reasonable, and easy, way to resolve this conflict would be for Delta to maintain benefits for Executive members (i.e. access when not flying Delta and possibly some partner lounge access) and reduce the benefits for general members. |
Originally Posted by HofstraJet
(Post 29337565)
When TiVo sold lifetime subscriptions to their service, they failed to mention that is was the lifetime of the TiVo box, not the lifetime of the subscriber. So if the box died, so did your subscription. |
Originally Posted by Horizons
(Post 29338319)
Not correct. I sometimes use Sky Clubs when flying another airline, or even when coming to the airport for a meeting, and the lounge staff have regularly gone out of their way to emphasize that this is permissible with a paid membership. In fact, I’m in the ORD Sky Club right now even though I flew in on United (on a nonstop route that Delta does not fly — though I did fly DL transcon yesterday). I always point out when I’m not on Delta, and the lounge checkers are unfailingly polite in telling me that I’m warmly welcome with my lifetime Sky Club card. Today the receptionist explained that one year from now the Sky Club policy will change, and anyone using the club must have a same-day Delta (or SkyTeam, presumably) boarding pass. This does seem to violate the contract I have with them; I paid to be a Club member, not an “occasionally when it suits Delta” club member. I dropped some serious cash to buy this access. https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...use-rules.html "Delta Sky Club Members can only use the Club in conjunction with same-day ticketed air travel but such travel may be on any airline." "Effective January 1, 2019, Delta Sky Club members may only use the Club in conjunction with same-day ticketed air travel on Delta or its partner airlines and will no longer have access to partner lounges." |
A little OT but now that the Virgin Clubhouse at LAX in the same terminal as some Delta flights do skyclub members have access to the Virgin Clubhouse at LAX currently if flying Delta from LAX?
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Originally Posted by jamesteroh
(Post 29342442)
A little OT but now that the Virgin Clubhouse at LAX in the same terminal as some Delta flights do skyclub members have access to the Virgin Clubhouse at LAX currently if flying Delta from LAX?
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IMHO...Now a waste of money...unless you get it as a perk.
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Originally Posted by LBJ
(Post 29342469)
No, Sky Club members aren't provided access VS Clubhouse locations. Gold and higher get access to US Clubhouse locations with a same-day ticket from the US to the UK when flying DL or VS metal.
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Originally Posted by xiphoid76
(Post 29220309)
Many times unfortunately for me. I live in a Delta hub - MSP, but work for the government and have to fly whatever contract they get for the cheapest which is frustratingly not Delta - about 1-2 times a month I fly non-Delta flights and have enjoyed the Sky Club lounge to get breakfast and relax before a flight. This is a deal breaker for me to end my membership :(
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Originally Posted by chrisny2
(Post 29341039)
No they didn't. As someone who has had several TiVos with lifetime subscriptions, I've read upon each purchase that it's a subscription for the lifetime of the box.
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Originally Posted by puddinhead
(Post 29343002)
Get a platinum Amex (not Delta branded).It included access to SkyClub lounges. It also includes Priority Pass (access the PGA lounge at MSP) and access to Centurion Lounges plus the Escape lounge at MSP. |
Originally Posted by HofstraJet
(Post 29343104)
To be clear, Platinum Amex only provides access to SkyClub when flying Delta.
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Originally Posted by ethernal
(Post 29343209)
Which is also now true for a membership.. the only difference is that the membership gives you access to SkyClubs when flying on partner planes, but honestly the priority pass covers most international travel (if you're not already SkyTeam Elite+ from GM).
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Originally Posted by ethernal
(Post 29343209)
Which is also now true for a membership.. the only difference is that the membership gives you access to SkyClubs when flying on partner planes, but honestly the priority pass covers most international travel (if you're not already SkyTeam Elite+ from GM).
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