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Delta SkyClub Access Changes starting Jan 1, 2019

Delta SkyClub Access Changes starting Jan 1, 2019

Old Oct 1, 18, 3:50 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerCO View Post
Yep. Then came the infamous Crown Lounge room slaughter.
Well the economy seems much healthier now. Hope Delta continues to view SCs as a profitable differentiator and adds more cities. Super excited about PHX.
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Old Oct 1, 18, 5:29 pm
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Me TOO! I go to PHX 9 times a year! SOON!!!
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Old Nov 7, 18, 9:49 am
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Seem unpopular accesss policy change requiring flight segment from its own airline or partner flight, first announced from DL SkyClub has lead to similar policy change to the other two, effective Nov 1, 2019. AA announced restrictive lounge access policy on Oct 18, 2018, UA on November 6, 2018. Both will be effective Nov 1, 2019. DL policy change is effective Jan 1, 2019.

Any successful class-action fight from DL, UA, and AA lifetime member would definitely change or break the course for implementation.....Am hopeful someone will be successful in fighting this.

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Old Nov 7, 18, 11:48 am
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I'm not a lawyer, but would definitely be interested in joining such a class action lawsuit myself!
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Old Nov 7, 18, 3:27 pm
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I suspect that lifetime membership carries a similar clause to their boilerplate "We can change the rules whenever we want and you have to accept and live with the changes". So, a lawsuit would likely go nowhere since Delta can change whatever rule they want whenever they want with impunity.

From the Delta Sky Club House Rules page - "Delta Sky Club members will not be compensated for changes in locations, rates or House Rules." House Rules include access restrictions related to boarding passes.
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Old Nov 7, 18, 6:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Paplover View Post
I suspect that lifetime membership carries a similar clause to their boilerplate "We can change the rules whenever we want and you have to accept and live with the changes". So, a lawsuit would likely go nowhere since Delta can change whatever rule they want whenever they want with impunity.

From the Delta Sky Club House Rules page - "Delta Sky Club members will not be compensated for changes in locations, rates or House Rules." House Rules include access restrictions related to boarding passes.
Maybe. I believe that language could have been absent at the time of membership for a few, some or all of the members. If so, I believe there is case. "

This access policy change is bigger now, now that all legacy carriers are going along with DL. With DL members impacted first, AA and UA lifetime members will be monitoring this thread for progress. Am hoping we can come together for all life-ers out there.

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Old Nov 7, 18, 7:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Paplover View Post
I suspect that lifetime membership carries a similar clause to their boilerplate "We can change the rules whenever we want and you have to accept and live with the changes". So, a lawsuit would likely go nowhere since Delta can change whatever rule they want whenever they want with impunity.

From the Delta Sky Club House Rules page - "Delta Sky Club members will not be compensated for changes in locations, rates or House Rules." House Rules include access restrictions related to boarding passes.
Sounds about right
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Old Nov 7, 18, 9:06 pm
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Here's NW's disclaimer which is available on archive.org --

"Use of all WorldClubs facilities is subject to the rules and conditions set by Northwest Airlines, which are subject to change at any time.

Northwest Airlines reserves the right to restrict, alter or modify the fees, benefits, services, hours of operation, policies and locations at any time with or without written notice to its members."
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Old Nov 8, 18, 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by LBJ View Post
Here's NW's disclaimer which is available on archive.org --

"Use of all WorldClubs facilities is subject to the rules and conditions set by Northwest Airlines, which are subject to change at any time.

Northwest Airlines reserves the right to restrict, alter or modify the fees, benefits, services, hours of operation, policies and locations at any time with or without written notice to its members."
Grr. Looks like Delta wins round one. Hmmm....

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Old Nov 8, 18, 9:49 am
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Something about this thread reminds me of a scene from the movie Liar, Liar:
Fletcher: You scratched my car!
Impound Guy: Where?
Fletcher: [showing him] Right there!
Impound Guy: Oh. That was already there.
Fletcher: You... you liar! You know what I'm going to do about this?
Impound Guy: What?
Fletcher: Nothing! Because if I take it to small claims court, it will just drain eight hours out of my life and you probably won't show up, and even if I got the judgment you'd just stiff me anyway. So what I'm gonna do is piss and moan like an impotent jerk and then bend over and take it up the tailpipe!
Impound Guy: You've been here before, haven't ya?
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Old Nov 8, 18, 9:53 am
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Originally Posted by LBJ View Post
Here's NW's disclaimer which is available on archive.org --

"Use of all WorldClubs facilities is subject to the rules and conditions set by Northwest Airlines, which are subject to change at any time.

Northwest Airlines reserves the right to restrict, alter or modify the fees, benefits, services, hours of operation, policies and locations at any time with or without written notice to its members."

What if they changed the hours of operation to, say, 11A-Noon ....only one hour each day and they eliminated all food and beverage. Would the disclaimers above cover them in a lawsuit? Hmmmm. Not sure but I bet it would be open to interpretation by a judge!
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Old Nov 8, 18, 11:00 am
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Originally Posted by hockeystl View Post
What if they changed the hours of operation to, say, 11A-Noon ....only one hour each day and they eliminated all food and beverage. Would the disclaimers above cover them in a lawsuit? Hmmmm. Not sure but I bet it would be open to interpretation by a judge!
Classic strawman device. Create a ridiculous scenario that will never happen and then attack that. What would be the point even if enforceable? No one would renew their memberships and there would be mass Amex card cancellations (which DL would be powerless to prevent) likely leading to a massive Amex lawsuit.
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Old Nov 8, 18, 11:14 am
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Originally Posted by hockeystl View Post
What if they changed the hours of operation to, say, 11A-Noon ....only one hour each day and they eliminated all food and beverage. Would the disclaimers above cover them in a lawsuit? Hmmmm. Not sure but I bet it would be open to interpretation by a judge!
Nothing is to stop them. Just like nothing stops them from having to keep a club open.
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Old Nov 8, 18, 5:18 pm
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United is making the same change November 1, 2019. This really sucks since I like using the UA club passes I get with my Hyatt membership at LAS and it came in handy when the DC skyclub was closed on weekends earlier this year
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Old Nov 8, 18, 10:14 pm
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Originally Posted by jamesteroh View Post
United is making the same change November 1, 2019. This really sucks since I like using the UA club passes I get with my Hyatt membership at LAS and it came in handy when the DC skyclub was closed on weekends earlier this year
Very frustrating! I've used UA club passes in EWR when flying JetBlue which I now won't be able to do anymore
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