What does Delta do with empty business class seats on NYC > LAX and SFO flights?
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don't know specifically when but the language reflects it now on the website.
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...l-changes.html
If you have a premium cabin fare, you may make same-day confirmed changes as long as a seat is available in the below scenarios:
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...l-changes.html
If you have a premium cabin fare, you may make same-day confirmed changes as long as a seat is available in the below scenarios:
- If your original ticket is a Delta OneTM ticket, you may move to any other flight with a premium cabin seat available
- If your original ticket is a First Class ticket, you may move only to other flights with a First Class seat available; you may not move to a flight with a Delta One experience, even if seats are available.
Was there any announcement about this, and/or does anyone know when this took effect? DL usually sends emails about policy changes, but I don't recall seeing anything about this in my inbox.
I also wonder how they will treat DMs here. There are several reports of unpublished/secret benefits here on FT of DMs being upgraded to D1 on the East/West transcons when seats are available.
Also, the new SDC terms still say "Origin, destination or co-terminal (LGA to JFK) changes are not same-day confirmed eligible" but in my experience (and, again, backed up by several reports here on FT), co-terminal changes are allowed as a DM so long as you reach a competent phone rep.
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Well, damn. This was one of my favorite technicalities when SDCing on a connecting transcon flight. I'm not at all surprised they changed the policy though.
Was there any announcement about this, and/or does anyone know when this took effect? DL usually sends emails about policy changes, but I don't recall seeing anything about this in my inbox.
I also wonder how they will treat DMs here. There are several reports of unpublished/secret benefits here on FT of DMs being upgraded to D1 on the East/West transcons when seats are available.
Also, the new SDC terms still say "Origin, destination or co-terminal (LGA to JFK) changes are not same-day confirmed eligible" but in my experience (and, again, backed up by several reports here on FT), co-terminal changes are allowed as a DM so long as you reach a competent phone rep.
Was there any announcement about this, and/or does anyone know when this took effect? DL usually sends emails about policy changes, but I don't recall seeing anything about this in my inbox.
I also wonder how they will treat DMs here. There are several reports of unpublished/secret benefits here on FT of DMs being upgraded to D1 on the East/West transcons when seats are available.
Also, the new SDC terms still say "Origin, destination or co-terminal (LGA to JFK) changes are not same-day confirmed eligible" but in my experience (and, again, backed up by several reports here on FT), co-terminal changes are allowed as a DM so long as you reach a competent phone rep.
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Well that must be brand new within the past week or so. I looked at the rules earlier this month and saw the 'old' version that didn't state anything about restrictions to D1 on SDC.
If DL really thought about this, they would allow it for a nominal 'upgrade fee' from F->D1.
If DL really thought about this, they would allow it for a nominal 'upgrade fee' from F->D1.
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Well that must be brand new within the past week or so. I looked at the rules earlier this month and saw the 'old' version that didn't state anything about restrictions to D1 on SDC.
If DL really thought about this, they would allow it for a nominal 'upgrade fee' from F->D1.
If DL really thought about this, they would allow it for a nominal 'upgrade fee' from F->D1.
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They'll happily let them go empty in my experience. Around Christmas last year I was on a 757 LAX-JFK that had all of four people including myself in the D1 cabin - no nonrevs and nobody was upgraded.
Usually they'll fill up with a combination of paid pax and RUC/GUC usage, I've often seen people on the UG list not clear even.
Usually they'll fill up with a combination of paid pax and RUC/GUC usage, I've often seen people on the UG list not clear even.
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Why would they allow it for a nominal 'upgrade fee' if they "really thought about this"? That runs counter to everything else they're doing to keep the cost of D1 high.
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This is essentially a DYKWIA type of complaint. "Well obviously Delta didn't consider how *I* feel about this, clearly since **I** don't like it they are going to suffer a huge monetary loss, CHESSMATE BEANCOUNTERS!"
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This simply brings the D1 domestic routes into line with DL's treatment of D1 internationally.
Social media is the likely culprit on the SDC issue. If one person every couple of weeks slid by, nobody would say anything. Not worth it. But, once people start lengthy discussion on social media sites and the numbers go up, it's an issue and it gets dealt with.
Social media is the likely culprit on the SDC issue. If one person every couple of weeks slid by, nobody would say anything. Not worth it. But, once people start lengthy discussion on social media sites and the numbers go up, it's an issue and it gets dealt with.
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Sorry but I take offense at that. Nowhere did I say or imply that this would be impacting me. I was simply mentioning/questioning Delta's decision to just cut if off entirely, since they are pushing FCM everywhere else and this seemed like another opportunity to make some incremental 'upgrade' money.
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Sorry but I take offense at that. Nowhere did I say or imply that this would be impacting me. I was simply mentioning/questioning Delta's decision to just cut if off entirely, since they are pushing FCM everywhere else and this seemed like another opportunity to make some incremental 'upgrade' money.
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This simply brings the D1 domestic routes into line with DL's treatment of D1 internationally.
Social media is the likely culprit on the SDC issue. If one person every couple of weeks slid by, nobody would say anything. Not worth it. But, once people start lengthy discussion on social media sites and the numbers go up, it's an issue and it gets dealt with.
Social media is the likely culprit on the SDC issue. If one person every couple of weeks slid by, nobody would say anything. Not worth it. But, once people start lengthy discussion on social media sites and the numbers go up, it's an issue and it gets dealt with.