More seat swapping/poaching fun!
Nov 5, 2018, 10:21 am
#376
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Indeed... the lack of any real consequences (since giving up the seat you never had a legitimate claim to isn’t a consequence, IMHO) will just embolden this guy to try it again. People have been booted from flights for way less than this.
Nov 5, 2018, 10:28 am
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Plus, with some probability, the owner of the FC seat will capitulate to avoid causing a fuss or delay, while some FAs/GAs unfortunately try to instruct or bully the seat owner to back down because this is easier for those FAs/GAs. In either case, it's a big win for the poacher.
Nov 5, 2018, 10:52 am
#378
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Indeed... the lack of any real consequences (since giving up the seat you never had a legitimate claim to isn’t a consequence, IMHO) will just embolden this guy to try it again. People have been booted from flights for way less than this.
I'm surprised the FA even went and got the GA. It should have gone: "I need to see your boarding pass" "No" "You're being ejected from the flight if you don't comply." There must be some sort of safety reg they could point to on that (BP is proof you belong on board or something).
Cities will boot a car that violates a parking rule, which adds costs and delays to the violator. It's probably a more valuable lesson than a $40 ticket, so to make a parallel, why not eject aggressive seat poachers like the one in the example?
Nov 5, 2018, 11:19 am
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When someone tries to deliberately poach my seat, I don't mind at all if the poacher is embarrassed. I've been know to remark loudly how difficult it must be to mistake 7A for 12C on the 777 or 3B for 27E on some domestic narrow body aircraft.
Nov 5, 2018, 11:33 am
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[left]so today 3C is sitting in 3D and 3D shows up and says well this guy is in my seat (as a diamond he should have known better) 3C refused to show his boarding pass to the FAs and then makes the GA come on who asks for his ID. He still refuses through the first 2 or 3 requests and finally shows it.
They are 16B.....
They are 16B.....
Was 3C unoccupied?
Nov 5, 2018, 11:55 am
#381
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I believe 3C was a diamond who boarded to find someone else in his seat and just took 3D instead of booting the poacher.
3D then showed up and the whole saga unfolded.
Nov 5, 2018, 11:58 am
#382
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Original Seat Assignment
Bob = 16B
Joe = 3C
Jane = 3D
Bob took 3C, Joe took 3D, Jane shows up, Joe says he's in 3D because Bob is in 3C.
Nov 5, 2018, 7:21 pm
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Nov 6, 2018, 8:12 am
#385
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I will remember this the next time I find someone in my seat. Priceless
Nov 6, 2018, 8:58 am
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They're saying the 16B seat poacher was in 3C, resulting in the 3C passenger sitting in 3D. When the 3D passenger showed-up, the 3C passenger in 3D told the 16B passenger was in 3C spot.
Original Seat Assignment
Bob = 16B
Joe = 3C
Jane = 3D
Bob took 3C, Joe took 3D, Jane shows up, Joe says he's in 3D because Bob is in 3C.
Original Seat Assignment
Bob = 16B
Joe = 3C
Jane = 3D
Bob took 3C, Joe took 3D, Jane shows up, Joe says he's in 3D because Bob is in 3C.
Nov 6, 2018, 12:19 pm
#387
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On a flight today where someone was sitting 3A when the rightful owner arrived. Everyone in F cabin suspected an honest misunderstanding as we saw the woman pre-board in a wheelchair and she seemed honestly confused.
Boarding pass showed row 27! She apologized profusely mentioning the attendant placed her there. Not sure if the attendant looked at the wrong boarding pass or what. Obviously the owner of 3A wasn’t going to give up First class seat near companion for swap to row 27.
Boarding pass showed row 27! She apologized profusely mentioning the attendant placed her there. Not sure if the attendant looked at the wrong boarding pass or what. Obviously the owner of 3A wasn’t going to give up First class seat near companion for swap to row 27.
Nov 6, 2018, 12:49 pm
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On a flight today where someone was sitting 3A when the rightful owner arrived. Everyone in F cabin suspected an honest misunderstanding as we saw the woman pre-board in a wheelchair and she seemed honestly confused.
Boarding pass showed row 27! She apologized profusely mentioning the attendant placed her there. Not sure if the attendant looked at the wrong boarding pass or what. Obviously the owner of 3A wasn’t going to give up First class seat near companion for swap to row 27.
Boarding pass showed row 27! She apologized profusely mentioning the attendant placed her there. Not sure if the attendant looked at the wrong boarding pass or what. Obviously the owner of 3A wasn’t going to give up First class seat near companion for swap to row 27.
Nov 6, 2018, 2:11 pm
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Was she able to move to her correct seat without the wheelchair? In fact, was this a miracle flight where she walked off the aircraft quickly with no need of a wheelchair at the destination? Maybe I'm overly suspicious, but I'm really wondering if she arranged for the wheelchair and told the pusher the wrong seat number as a preplanned seat poaching scam. I suspect that many people would have permitted her to stay in the FC seat rather than insisting that she move or be moved to the correct coach seat.
Nov 6, 2018, 4:35 pm
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Was she able to move to her correct seat without the wheelchair? In fact, was this a miracle flight where she walked off the aircraft quickly with no need of a wheelchair at the destination? Maybe I'm overly suspicious, but I'm really wondering if she arranged for the wheelchair and told the pusher the wrong seat number as a preplanned seat poaching scam. I suspect that many people would have permitted her to stay in the FC seat rather than insisting that she move or be moved to the correct coach seat.
I don’t think it was a scam. Just a rushed wheelchair attendant not looking closely at BP (or as someone else mentioned perhaps pax confused seat assignment from a prior flight).