More seat swapping/poaching fun!
Apr 26, 2018, 7:00 am
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Yesterday (4/25) I was sitting in 10A, one of the bulkhead seats on the A333 for an ATL-AMS flight. Across the plane, during boarding, a man was seated in 10J, with 10H unoccupied. Towards the end of boarding two women enter the plane and tell the man that 10 H&J are their seats. I couldn’t hear details of the conversation but the man did not argue or pull out his boarding pass. He just got up and moved about 5 rows farther back in the plane, to a non Comfort+ seat. My seat mate and I agreed that it looked like a case of blatant seat poaching by the man.
It's a bit like trying to walk out of a store without paying for something, but if questioned, going up to the register and paying. "I was going to shoplift, but you saw me..so here's my money".
Apr 26, 2018, 7:04 am
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Exactly; those are coveted seats. I often choose international flights or even routings on the basis of 10A/J availability. It was one of the reasons I flew MSP-ATL-AMS instead of a non-stop yesterday.
Apr 26, 2018, 10:25 am
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Several years ago we were on 10A/B, the aisles of the center section were also occupied and according to the seat map, the two middle seats were supposed to be empty. Towards the end of the boarding, two gentlemen took the middle seats, and were speaking really loud and yelling at each other, to the point where it was becoming very annoying. The FA noticed the discomfort of the rest of the passengers and brought the manifest. She then asked them to either move to their seats or pay the cost of a C+ upgrade.
Apr 27, 2018, 12:35 am
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Yesterday (4/25) I was sitting in 10A, one of the bulkhead seats on the A333 for an ATL-AMS flight. Across the plane, during boarding, a man was seated in 10J, with 10H unoccupied. Towards the end of boarding two women enter the plane and tell the man that 10 H&J are their seats. I couldn’t hear details of the conversation but the man did not argue or pull out his boarding pass. He just got up and moved about 5 rows farther back in the plane, to a non Comfort+ seat. My seat mate and I agreed that it looked like a case of blatant seat poaching by the man.
Apr 27, 2018, 1:36 am
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I run into this form of poaching more and more often. The ones who don't argue or apologize. They simply get up without a word and move back to regular Economy. Then I have to feel their butt heat in my seat. I suppose they are operating on the notion of "nothing ventured, nothing gained". Seems like a stretch to imagine that there are any flights not going out full these days, let alone empties in E+.
It's a bit like trying to walk out of a store without paying for something, but if questioned, going up to the register and paying. "I was going to shoplift, but you saw me..so here's my money".
It's a bit like trying to walk out of a store without paying for something, but if questioned, going up to the register and paying. "I was going to shoplift, but you saw me..so here's my money".
Oh, the horror!
Apr 27, 2018, 5:57 am
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I have done this very thing, and within the last year. I am late to boarding so I am boarding with coach pax, and a few folks ahead of me I see a man put his bag in the OH Bin above my seat and then proceed to steerage.
I took my seat, waited until boarding was done, and then removed it and placed it on the floor of the aisle. An FA came by, asked who it belonged to, and I said it was someone in coach. She took it back. Didn't see the results..but the bag never came back forward so I assume the Bin Poacher got his comeuppance.
There are people right here on FT who engage in bin poaching ( not always in F, but always forward of their seat). They come up with all kinds of justifications.."my stuff is expensive and I like to keep an eye on it"..that kind of thing. To hell with the seat occupants in the Bin's row.
I took my seat, waited until boarding was done, and then removed it and placed it on the floor of the aisle. An FA came by, asked who it belonged to, and I said it was someone in coach. She took it back. Didn't see the results..but the bag never came back forward so I assume the Bin Poacher got his comeuppance.
There are people right here on FT who engage in bin poaching ( not always in F, but always forward of their seat). They come up with all kinds of justifications.."my stuff is expensive and I like to keep an eye on it"..that kind of thing. To hell with the seat occupants in the Bin's row.
Apr 27, 2018, 6:14 am
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If the space was needed for C+ customer, I could at least understand, though still wouldn't agree with touching the bag. 1- risk liability if something is broken or missing, 2-the FA may have told them to place it there, and 3-the FA is there to help with situations likes this.
Apr 27, 2018, 7:14 am
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the OP didn't say that he ever put a bag into the overhead bin to begin with
Apr 27, 2018, 7:15 am
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Just read enough of that guy's posts and you'll have your answer
Apr 27, 2018, 8:29 am
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I proceeded to open the bin and removed it and place it in the aisle as it was early during boarding and hers were the only ones there while pointing to the reserved for comfort plus decals.
The early days of C+ rollout they placed decals on the top of the seats marking the occupied seats with the manifest in hand.
Apr 27, 2018, 9:59 am
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Because that bin was over MY seat and MY bag was the one that was supposed to go in there. He wasn't even an F pax, yet wants F bin space. That's why.
Apr 27, 2018, 10:05 am
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Apr 27, 2018, 1:23 pm
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Not up to you. AS I've pointed out, the FA will even tell passengers to put their bags in the first available space. If it bothered you so much, then tell the FA. However you're not promised to not have someone else's bag over your head. Also your comment made wasn't about needing the space for your bag, it was about not wanting his bag above you.
Apr 27, 2018, 5:32 pm
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If the space was needed for C+ customer, I could at least understand, though still wouldn't agree with touching the bag. 1- risk liability if something is broken or missing, 2-the FA may have told them to place it there, and 3-the FA is there to help with situations likes this.
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Apr 28, 2018, 12:17 pm
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On KEF-JFK a couple weeks ago, I was sitting in 22D. A young couple boarded, with him in 22B and her in 22E. Of course he ask me to switch seats, even though both windows A/F were open on the seat map. I politely declined after hinting that an aisle for middle isn't exactly a fair swap. The flight was not full, so they both ended up moving to an empty row farther back, and I had a whole row to myself!