More seat swapping/poaching fun!
Nov 20, 2018, 8:56 am
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In a separate thread it was noted that there are at least three different A321 configs, so this could all be easily explained by a change in which particular aircraft is assigned to the flight. (Not saying it's a great explanation, and it sucks to lose a carefully-selected seat assignment, but it didn't involve any sort of shenanigans at least)
Delta A321 rear exit row change
Delta A321 rear exit row change
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Nov 20, 2018, 5:26 pm
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It may surprise you to learn that middle seats are also located in the main cabin 
They don't do it "on the regular". Usually it happens if there is a swap in plane type etc -- the computer isn't very smart about trying to keep people in the same seat as before. Or if they need a seat for a Federal Air Marshal.
It sucks when it happens, but the fine print notes that seat assignments aren't guaranteed. And you should ignore whatever click bait articles are telling you you can get an F upgrade for sneezing
Sorry it happened; some miles as a customer service gesture seems appropriate and you got those
They don't do it "on the regular". Usually it happens if there is a swap in plane type etc -- the computer isn't very smart about trying to keep people in the same seat as before. Or if they need a seat for a Federal Air Marshal.
It sucks when it happens, but the fine print notes that seat assignments aren't guaranteed. And you should ignore whatever click bait articles are telling you you can get an F upgrade for sneezing
Sorry it happened; some miles as a customer service gesture seems appropriate and you got those
Nov 20, 2018, 6:02 pm
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Was the $50 you got more or less than you paid for the seats?
Nov 22, 2018, 8:09 am
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Flying on holidays can be so much fun; flying JFK-SFO this morning and right after boarding had completed and the door was shut, the purser came over to a couple a few rows ahead of my in C+ and asked to see their boarding passes. Apparently, the male of the pair had legitimate C+ access but his travelling companion did not and they tried to self-upgrade her into the empty middle seat next to them. A brief argument ensued with the end result being the lady doing the Walk of Shame back to rear of the cabin while we were pushing back.
Nov 22, 2018, 9:28 am
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Flying on holidays can be so much fun; flying JFK-SFO this morning and right after boarding had completed and the door was shut, the purser came over to a couple a few rows ahead of my in C+ and asked to see their boarding passes. Apparently, the male of the pair had legitimate C+ access but his travelling companion did not and they tried to self-upgrade her into the empty middle seat next to them. A brief argument ensued with the end result being the lady doing the Walk of Shame back to rear of the cabin while we were pushing back.
Nov 22, 2018, 9:43 am
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Made even sweeter after the inevitable “DYKWIA” argument. If they just said “Oops! I’m sorry” and moved that’d be understandable. We all make mistakes or, when we gamble and lose, get caught and take our comeuppance with a smile. But the ones who push it or feel they are entitled are the ones we derive some pleasure in seeing them scoff as they do the walk.
Nov 22, 2018, 1:38 pm
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Flying on holidays can be so much fun; flying JFK-SFO this morning and right after boarding had completed and the door was shut, the purser came over to a couple a few rows ahead of my in C+ and asked to see their boarding passes. Apparently, the male of the pair had legitimate C+ access but his travelling companion did not and they tried to self-upgrade her into the empty middle seat next to them. A brief argument ensued with the end result being the lady doing the Walk of Shame back to rear of the cabin while we were pushing back.
Toward the end of boarding I noticed that the line was backing up. There was a lady and a 5 or 6 year old boy standing in the aisle and I overheard her talking to the guy in 10A. She said that she had 10A and 10B and that apparently there was a mix-up. The guy was insisting that he did. I saw the corner of the lady's boarding pass when she turned to talk to the FA - definitely 10A.
The FA came over and spoke to the couple, and after some back and forth the boarding passes finally came out. The FA pointed toward the back and the couple gathered up their stuff and moved back to at least row 20 - AND on the DEF side of the plane! That leads me to believe that not only were they not in row 10, they probably weren't SKY either, and it almost certainly wasn't an accident.
Nov 22, 2018, 2:00 pm
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Flying on holidays can be so much fun; flying JFK-SFO this morning and right after boarding had completed and the door was shut, the purser came over to a couple a few rows ahead of my in C+ and asked to see their boarding passes. Apparently, the male of the pair had legitimate C+ access but his travelling companion did not and they tried to self-upgrade her into the empty middle seat next to them. A brief argument ensued with the end result being the lady doing the Walk of Shame back to rear of the cabin while we were pushing back.
Nov 22, 2018, 7:21 pm
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I flew PDX-LAX this last Monday on a 717. Boarded with Prem and took my seat in 3D. At the beginning of the second wave of boarding (SKY, presumably) a couple sat down in 10A&B. I only noticed what was going on because I had been upgraded out of 10A at the gate and I always have this morbid curiosity about who landed in my old seat.
Toward the end of boarding I noticed that the line was backing up. There was a lady and a 5 or 6 year old boy standing in the aisle and I overheard her talking to the guy in 10A. She said that she had 10A and 10B and that apparently there was a mix-up. The guy was insisting that he did. I saw the corner of the lady's boarding pass when she turned to talk to the FA - definitely 10A.
The FA came over and spoke to the couple, and after some back and forth the boarding passes finally came out. The FA pointed toward the back and the couple gathered up their stuff and moved back to at least row 20 - AND on the DEF side of the plane! That leads me to believe that not only were they not in row 10, they probably weren't SKY either, and it almost certainly wasn't an accident.
Toward the end of boarding I noticed that the line was backing up. There was a lady and a 5 or 6 year old boy standing in the aisle and I overheard her talking to the guy in 10A. She said that she had 10A and 10B and that apparently there was a mix-up. The guy was insisting that he did. I saw the corner of the lady's boarding pass when she turned to talk to the FA - definitely 10A.
The FA came over and spoke to the couple, and after some back and forth the boarding passes finally came out. The FA pointed toward the back and the couple gathered up their stuff and moved back to at least row 20 - AND on the DEF side of the plane! That leads me to believe that not only were they not in row 10, they probably weren't SKY either, and it almost certainly wasn't an accident.
Nov 22, 2018, 7:23 pm
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They do it because it sometimes works. Some FAs will just tell the real owner of the seat to sit elsewhere and some passengers can be intimidated into taking the poacher's seat rather than make a fuss.
Nov 22, 2018, 7:31 pm
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Nov 22, 2018, 9:09 pm
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I also got a refund of the cash paid for the preferred seat (which was $19 IIRC); the $50 gift card was purely a CS gesture. That was more than fair I’d say, but I am still curious why these particular seats seem to be problematic.
Nov 23, 2018, 7:50 pm
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I flew PDX-LAX this last Monday on a 717. Boarded with Prem and took my seat in 3D. At the beginning of the second wave of boarding (SKY, presumably) a couple sat down in 10A&B. I only noticed what was going on because I had been upgraded out of 10A at the gate and I always have this morbid curiosity about who landed in my old seat.
Toward the end of boarding I noticed that the line was backing up. There was a lady and a 5 or 6 year old boy standing in the aisle and I overheard her talking to the guy in 10A. She said that she had 10A and 10B and that apparently there was a mix-up. The guy was insisting that he did. I saw the corner of the lady's boarding pass when she turned to talk to the FA - definitely 10A.
The FA came over and spoke to the couple, and after some back and forth the boarding passes finally came out. The FA pointed toward the back and the couple gathered up their stuff and moved back to at least row 20 - AND on the DEF side of the plane! That leads me to believe that not only were they not in row 10, they probably weren't SKY either, and it almost certainly wasn't an accident.
Toward the end of boarding I noticed that the line was backing up. There was a lady and a 5 or 6 year old boy standing in the aisle and I overheard her talking to the guy in 10A. She said that she had 10A and 10B and that apparently there was a mix-up. The guy was insisting that he did. I saw the corner of the lady's boarding pass when she turned to talk to the FA - definitely 10A.
The FA came over and spoke to the couple, and after some back and forth the boarding passes finally came out. The FA pointed toward the back and the couple gathered up their stuff and moved back to at least row 20 - AND on the DEF side of the plane! That leads me to believe that not only were they not in row 10, they probably weren't SKY either, and it almost certainly wasn't an accident.
Nov 23, 2018, 8:12 pm
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Plus, with some probability, the owner of the FC seat will capitulate to avoid causing a fuss or delay, while some FAs/GAs unfortunately try to instruct or bully the seat owner to back down because this is easier for those FAs/GAs. In either case, it's a big win for the poacher.
Nov 24, 2018, 1:29 pm
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