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Old Nov 4, 17, 9:01 pm
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Earnings Confusion on DL-Ticketed, KLM-Marketed

I have a flight from LAX-AMS-JNB with a KLM flight number (in Z class).

It is Delta-ticketed (006).

Since I'm crediting to Skymiles, would the miles be based on ticket price like any other DL flight?

Also, would MQMs be miles flown plus class-of-service bonus?

I'm a DM.

I'm not generally this confused but I wasn't certain looking at the charts. I'm flying in next January.

Help!

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Originally Posted by Mileage Lover View Post
I have a flight from LAX-AMS-JNB with a KLM flight number (in Z class).

It is Delta-ticketed (006).

Since I'm crediting to Skymiles, would the miles be based on ticket price like any other DL flight?

Also, would MQMs be miles flown plus class-of-service bonus?

I'm a DM.

I'm not generally this confused but I wasn't certain looking at the charts. I'm flying in next January.

Help!

Thanks!
Are the flights KL or DL coded? Flights after Jan 1 earn at a different setup l, based solely on how the flight is coded.
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Old Nov 4, 17, 10:25 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerCO View Post
Are the flights KL or DL coded? Flights after Jan 1 earn at a different setup l, based solely on how the flight is coded.
OP said KL flight numbers so they would be KL coded. KL Z fares earn 100% miles plus 50% class of service MQM's (just like DL coded Z fares). Since your flights are after Jan 1, you should earn RDM's based on miles (rather than ticket cost -- ticketing carrier no longer matters after Jan 1) at 100% base mileage plus 100% class of service bonus plus 120% DM bonus (on base). MQD's will be earned as 40% of base mileage.
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Originally Posted by LBJ View Post
OP said KL flight numbers so they would be KL coded. KL Z fares earn 100% miles plus 50% class of service MQM's (just like DL coded Z fares). Since your flights are after Jan 1, you should earn RDM's based on miles (rather than ticket cost -- ticketing carrier no longer matters after Jan 1) at 100% base mileage plus 100% class of service bonus plus 120% DM bonus (on base). MQD's will be earned as 40% of base mileage.

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Originally Posted by LBJ View Post
OP said KL flight numbers so they would be KL coded. KL Z fares earn 100% miles plus 50% class of service MQM's (just like DL coded Z fares). Since your flights are after Jan 1, you should earn RDM's based on miles (rather than ticket cost -- ticketing carrier no longer matters after Jan 1) at 100% base mileage plus 100% class of service bonus plus 120% DM bonus (on base). MQD's will be earned as 40% of base mileage.
Thanks for the catch. Brain fart. Misread the KLM marketed part.
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While the disclaimer about 006 ticket stock has been removed from the KLM partner page, it is now a catchall on the partner earning landing page:

Not sure which airline is the marketing or ticketing carrier for your flight? The marketing carrier is determined by the two letter airline code in the flight number. For example, DL2368 is marketed by Delta Air Lines and follows the SkyMiles earning rules. However, VS18 is marketed by Virgin Atlantic and would follow the Virgin Atlantic chart. A Delta-ticketed flight features a ticket number that begins with “006”. Any flight purchased through delta.com will be ticketed by Delta. Any partner flight that is not Delta-marketed or Delta-ticketed will earn according to the rules below.
I would interpret this as meaning that any flight numbers on 006 stock are purely revenue based. Any chance of a clarification, @SkyMilesTeam?
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Originally Posted by C W View Post
While the disclaimer about 006 ticket stock has been removed from the KLM partner page, it is now a catchall on the partner earning landing page:



I would interpret this as meaning that any flight numbers on 006 stock are purely revenue based. Any chance of a clarification, @SkyMilesTeam?
Well, I've been in the same boat. This thread has cleared up the confusion.
I think Delta had issued the new 2018 tables, but had not cleaned up all the notes. Thus I was sure I had read: "Flights marketed and ticketed by the partner..."

Whereas I just checked again now and finally for Air France (and KLM will be the same) is reads:
"3) Medallion Qualification Dollars (MQDs) apply to Medallion qualification. Flights marketed by the partner will earn MQDs based on a percentage of distance flown* as determined by the fare class paid.
(4) Medallion Mileage Bonus is based on Base Miles earned: Diamond - 120%; Platinum - 80%; Gold - 60%; Silver - 40%"

So the ticketing airline and 006 stock now seems to make not the difference.

Thanks all for the help and clarification.
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Originally Posted by wxman22 View Post
Well, I've been in the same boat. This thread has cleared up the confusion.
I think Delta had issued the new 2018 tables, but had not cleaned up all the notes. Thus I was sure I had read: "Flights marketed and ticketed by the partner..."

Whereas I just checked again now and finally for Air France (and KLM will be the same) is reads:
"3) Medallion Qualification Dollars (MQDs) apply to Medallion qualification. Flights marketed by the partner will earn MQDs based on a percentage of distance flown* as determined by the fare class paid.
(4) Medallion Mileage Bonus is based on Base Miles earned: Diamond - 120%; Platinum - 80%; Gold - 60%; Silver - 40%"

So the ticketing airline and 006 stock now seems to make not the difference.

Thanks all for the help and clarification.
Agreed. Also if you pull up the announcment on Delta.com it lays out that it is now determined strictly by Marketing of the flight w/o regard to ticket stock.
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Originally Posted by wxman22 View Post
Well, I've been in the same boat. This thread has cleared up the confusion.
I think Delta had issued the new 2018 tables, but had not cleaned up all the notes. Thus I was sure I had read: "Flights marketed and ticketed by the partner..."
You were probably thinking of footnote 1, which as of right now still reads:

"Flights marketed and ticketed by partners may earn MQDs based on a percentage of distance flown* as determined by the fare class paid."

Although hopefully as you said they just haven't cleaned up all the references yet.

As flyerCO notes, under Skymiles News & Updates the language under MEDALLION PROGRAM UPDATES > SKYMILES MEMBERS CAN EARN TOWARDS MEDALLION STATUS ON MORE PARTNER AIRLINES STARTING IN 2018 reflects the new structure.
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