Fare in Yen
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Fare in Yen
I'm planning on booking a one-way trip from Tokyo Narita to Seattle. On the Delta site (I'm in the US) the fare comes up in yen. I'm curious as to how this plays out charging to a Delta AMEX card. The dollar has been rising against the yen and some forecasts show that this should continue for a while. Some others are forecasting a sharp decline. Anyone have any experience with this?
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It's providing a fare in Yen because the trip originating in Japan. They provide the cost based on the country of origin.
I do this pretty frequently for trips originating out of the EU and paid against my AMEX. Typically AMEX takes whatever the daily US>FOREX conversion rate is and it shows up on your CC bill in USD. If you are subject to a foreign transaction fee, that shows up as a separate line item and is a % of the total purchase.
I do this pretty frequently for trips originating out of the EU and paid against my AMEX. Typically AMEX takes whatever the daily US>FOREX conversion rate is and it shows up on your CC bill in USD. If you are subject to a foreign transaction fee, that shows up as a separate line item and is a % of the total purchase.
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Tickets are always priced in the currency of the origin airport, which is why it is in Yen. In terms of charging to Amex, it will show up on your statement as the amount in Yen under the Foreign Spend column, and then converted to USD in the Amount column. I don't believe any of the Delta AmEx cards have a foreign transaction fee so you shouldn't need to worry about that.
The conversion should be done at whatever the rate was at the time of booking the ticket, although it is possible it is not done until it goes from pending to a confirmed charge. Someone else may be able to chime in on the exact timing of when the rate is locked in.
There is no way to get the ticket to price out in USD and I certainly wouldn't play the guessing game on when/if the conversion rate will be most in your favor. Unless you're looking really far in advance, you're more likely to pay more due to fare changes than you would trying to time up the best forex rate.
The conversion should be done at whatever the rate was at the time of booking the ticket, although it is possible it is not done until it goes from pending to a confirmed charge. Someone else may be able to chime in on the exact timing of when the rate is locked in.
There is no way to get the ticket to price out in USD and I certainly wouldn't play the guessing game on when/if the conversion rate will be most in your favor. Unless you're looking really far in advance, you're more likely to pay more due to fare changes than you would trying to time up the best forex rate.
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I'm planning on booking a one-way trip from Tokyo Narita to Seattle. On the Delta site (I'm in the US) the fare comes up in yen. I'm curious as to how this plays out charging to a Delta AMEX card. The dollar has been rising against the yen and some forecasts show that this should continue for a while. Some others are forecasting a sharp decline. Anyone have any experience with this?
I have a good chunk of assets in JPY, it was really strong against CAD back in Apr., but I was greedy and lost the opportunity to change them to CAD. However, I know it's cyclical, so I'll hold it for a while lol. Same goes with gold, I seem to always miss opportunities to sell.
I agree with other posters, I'd also say airfare is a lot more volatile than USD/JPY, I'd say grab it if you think it's a good price, regardless of forex forecast.
It's nice it shows forex fee separately in statements in USA as one poster mentioned. In Canada, it's usually around 2.5% stated in T&C, but on statements, they're never separate, you need to use a calculator, then they usually come +-2.5%. I have amazon.ca Visa which offers no forex fee, but I still get dinged up to 0.5%, because they use Visa's exchange rate, which is always slightly higher than what we see on xe.com.
FYI, ex-Canada tkts are priced and charged in CAD on delta.com, but when I redeemed a o/w reward tkt from Mexico to Canada, delta.com was showing fees in USD, not in MXN and I was charged accordingly.
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If you call DL in US, they'll bill in USD. Otherwise online purchases will be in local currency of 1st departure airport.
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If anyone could reliably predict currency fluctuations, they'd be a billionaire. You typically see forecasts going both ways. And sometimes when everyone agrees, they still end up wrong.
I wouldn't worry about it. The airfare could change a lot more than the exchange rate will.
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The phone agents in the USA by default ticket in USD. It is actually possible for them to quote the tickets in other currencies though -- it's just that no one knows how to do it anymore. I used to do this back in the day when foreign currency transaction fees were a thing.