New customs procedure at JFK T4
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New customs procedure at JFK T4
Encountered this for the first time last night -- not sure how long it's been around and apologies if there's an existing thread but didn't see any.
Basically there is no longer any sort of document check as you exit the baggage claim hall at JFK T4. No line, no need to hand in Global Entry forms or paper forms, and no mini-interview by an agent. You just walk out. There were a few agents standing near the exit and presumably they can randomly pull you aside for secondary screening, but as we exited they weren't otherwise talking to anyone. Reminiscent of exiting the baggage hall at LHR, for example.
I arrived around 8:30pm well after the afternoon peak so didn't see it in full operation, but seems like it would be a big improvement as the baggage hall exit lines were often extremely long.
Global Entry users now hand in their form to an agent immediately after using the kiosk. Not a big improvement for Global Entry users since they had access to the priority customs line anyway, but IMO it's still better since I'd found some of the agents collecting the GE form at customs liked to give you a little grilling at that point, which always annoyed me since GE is supposed to help you avoid that.
No idea whether this is going to expand to other airports or not but I would hope so. Also no idea how, if you are selected for secondary, they reconcile your answers on the form or kiosk with the contents of your bag (which has gotten some people in trouble including having GE revoked in the past for failing to declare trivial foods -- hopefully it means such "gotchas" won't happen any more). Since most other countries have managed without this I suspect it's not actually that important.
Basically there is no longer any sort of document check as you exit the baggage claim hall at JFK T4. No line, no need to hand in Global Entry forms or paper forms, and no mini-interview by an agent. You just walk out. There were a few agents standing near the exit and presumably they can randomly pull you aside for secondary screening, but as we exited they weren't otherwise talking to anyone. Reminiscent of exiting the baggage hall at LHR, for example.
I arrived around 8:30pm well after the afternoon peak so didn't see it in full operation, but seems like it would be a big improvement as the baggage hall exit lines were often extremely long.
Global Entry users now hand in their form to an agent immediately after using the kiosk. Not a big improvement for Global Entry users since they had access to the priority customs line anyway, but IMO it's still better since I'd found some of the agents collecting the GE form at customs liked to give you a little grilling at that point, which always annoyed me since GE is supposed to help you avoid that.
No idea whether this is going to expand to other airports or not but I would hope so. Also no idea how, if you are selected for secondary, they reconcile your answers on the form or kiosk with the contents of your bag (which has gotten some people in trouble including having GE revoked in the past for failing to declare trivial foods -- hopefully it means such "gotchas" won't happen any more). Since most other countries have managed without this I suspect it's not actually that important.
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I just flew into JFK T4 this afternoon and noticed the same thing. The arrival experience in customs at LHR actually crossed my mind as well in terms of the similarity.
I was surprised that there was a CBP agent standing by the GE kiosks to take the forms, and then I was wondering what was going to happen at customs. Clearly they've decided that the effort of turning in the forms wasn't worth the line...so no complaints from me!
I was surprised that there was a CBP agent standing by the GE kiosks to take the forms, and then I was wondering what was going to happen at customs. Clearly they've decided that the effort of turning in the forms wasn't worth the line...so no complaints from me!
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I had the same flying TXL/JFK on July 3, and, I believe in ATL arriving from MEX a few weeks before that.
I was VERY surprised, to say the least. We'll probably never know why.
I was VERY surprised, to say the least. We'll probably never know why.
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All I could think as we were going through was how well the new system would have worked out for this guy (since you can type your passport number into the GE kiosk instead of scanning, and at least in my one experience the guy taking the slip from me right after that didn't ask to see my passport like they used to at the main exit -- so if you had GE and lost your passport on the inbound aircraft, as long as you knew the passport number you could still enter the country without anyone the wiser).
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Already posted about this on the JFK Connections thread. Arrived yesterday and was surprised to see how fast it went. For those of us who still have to fill out the CBP form, it is stamped by the immigration officer and they keep it.
I was the first person out and no other flights were arriving at that time (10:00 am) so didn't see it in action either, but basically there were 2 CBP officers by the exit and I just smiled and said good morning, they smiled back Remembers me of CDG as well.
I hope this is just not a trial.^
I was the first person out and no other flights were arriving at that time (10:00 am) so didn't see it in action either, but basically there were 2 CBP officers by the exit and I just smiled and said good morning, they smiled back Remembers me of CDG as well.
I hope this is just not a trial.^
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There is a way to avoid this if you don't have checked bags. If you arrive at E than you just follow the signs to ATL Bound PAX and clear coustoms in F and then exit like you are a ATL PAX and go upstairs and use TSA Pre there.
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I've done this at DTW before. Saved me about 20 minutes.
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