Delta is Propaganda - Not Premium
Sep 29, 2017, 7:47 am
#49
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Lately I have seen Delta more and more become PURE marketing and propaganda, not at all Premium:
- The tape on the ME3 - Proves the airline is pure propaganda in all the lies and attempt to persuade customers to believe something they knew is a far stretch of the truth
- LAX Terminal move- HAHA!!!! Read the billboards as you drive into LAX. They advertise a better experience and that it is "closer" to the front of the airport. LAX is a circle, if it is closer driving in, its farther driving out. The move has stunk.
- They really think customers think Skymiles is awesome and they are hevaily advertising wonderful benefits such as being able to buy a beer in a Skyclub with miles. A beer that should be free for international travelers and club members! On no other world class airline would an inter-continental paid business traveler be scrubbed for beer money
- Branding of comfort plus - Here they will give you the beer and a snack worth $5-7 total. Meanwhile top tier on UA or AA can have a meal for free on all flights that offer! AND you can just pick your seat! No upgrade required!
- The airline with the absolute worst First Class Product, Worst lounges for international travel, worst international business class seats (767s , 777s and upcoming cramped A350 suites) worst alliance and worst mileage program cannot possible be the Premium carrier. You need to win all those items above ALONG with having world class service and operations.
Delta - is a crap carrier. Will still have to fly them sometime but their CEO is all about Propaganda.... little about the experience matches and its a fact the SkyMile is so bad, I hope it destroys DL
- The tape on the ME3 - Proves the airline is pure propaganda in all the lies and attempt to persuade customers to believe something they knew is a far stretch of the truth
- LAX Terminal move- HAHA!!!! Read the billboards as you drive into LAX. They advertise a better experience and that it is "closer" to the front of the airport. LAX is a circle, if it is closer driving in, its farther driving out. The move has stunk.
- They really think customers think Skymiles is awesome and they are hevaily advertising wonderful benefits such as being able to buy a beer in a Skyclub with miles. A beer that should be free for international travelers and club members! On no other world class airline would an inter-continental paid business traveler be scrubbed for beer money
- Branding of comfort plus - Here they will give you the beer and a snack worth $5-7 total. Meanwhile top tier on UA or AA can have a meal for free on all flights that offer! AND you can just pick your seat! No upgrade required!
- The airline with the absolute worst First Class Product, Worst lounges for international travel, worst international business class seats (767s , 777s and upcoming cramped A350 suites) worst alliance and worst mileage program cannot possible be the Premium carrier. You need to win all those items above ALONG with having world class service and operations.
Delta - is a crap carrier. Will still have to fly them sometime but their CEO is all about Propaganda.... little about the experience matches and its a fact the SkyMile is so bad, I hope it destroys DL
(1) Accept the fact that sadly, most passengers will need to lower their expectations. No carrier is what it use to be in terms of service.
(2) Be thankful, that at the very least, you always got home safely. After all, this is the number one most important thing, and certainly trumps any other thing, any airline on the planet can offer.
(3) Perhaps work harder, and be more successful in your career, and buy a private jet, or fractional jet ownership card, so as not to be subjected to the horrid airlines.
Just a few thoughts. But ultimately, vote with your wallet. Complaining here won't do very much.
Sep 29, 2017, 8:02 am
#50
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ugh, really? Thats alot of anger toward an airline. A few suggestions:
(3) Perhaps work harder, and be more successful in your career, and buy a private jet, or fractional jet ownership card, so as not to be subjected to the horrid airlines.
Just a few thoughts. But ultimately, vote with your wallet. Complaining here won't do very much.
(3) Perhaps work harder, and be more successful in your career, and buy a private jet, or fractional jet ownership card, so as not to be subjected to the horrid airlines.
Just a few thoughts. But ultimately, vote with your wallet. Complaining here won't do very much.
Sep 29, 2017, 8:20 am
#51
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Sep 29, 2017, 9:42 am
#53
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I am actually referring to the international travel experience. Yes they have free beer but most decent liquor you have to pay for. American has premium liquor free in their international lounges for biz class and up (several being built) and if you are in an Admirals club they will give you drink tickets for premium liquor if you are traveling intl. Its not that valuable but a nice gesture.
Even nice Skyclubs are built for the domestic experience. SEA, SFO and ATL E, and B are exceptionally nice for domestic lounges but none of them compare to some of the wonderful lounges of OW/Star.
Even nice Skyclubs are built for the domestic experience. SEA, SFO and ATL E, and B are exceptionally nice for domestic lounges but none of them compare to some of the wonderful lounges of OW/Star.
Sep 29, 2017, 9:45 am
#54
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Sep 29, 2017, 11:49 am
#55
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No worries, this is flyer talk no one is allowed to take offense. I can already fly but thank you!
Sep 29, 2017, 12:01 pm
#56
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Pardon my French but... ....ing awful.
Delta SkyClub's aren't perfect, I don't like some bits of them but EVERY Sky Club I have been to is better than that United Club I visited in one of their hubs AND on a premium route.
Sep 29, 2017, 1:59 pm
#57
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I had the pleasure of one of the United Club's in EWR on my EWR -> LHR flight recently.
Pardon my French but... ....ing awful.
Delta SkyClub's aren't perfect, I don't like some bits of them but EVERY Sky Club I have been to is better than that United Club I visited in one of their hubs AND on a premium route.
Pardon my French but... ....ing awful.
Delta SkyClub's aren't perfect, I don't like some bits of them but EVERY Sky Club I have been to is better than that United Club I visited in one of their hubs AND on a premium route.
Sep 29, 2017, 2:24 pm
#58
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Sep 29, 2017, 4:23 pm
#59
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Delta has better partners to where? Maybe Europe but no where else.
Asia - DL partners mostly with Chinese carriers that do not hold a candle to CX, ANA, JAL, SQ, MH. CI and GA are good but limited flights.
Skyteam lounges are pretty bad. I now think the best Skyteam lounge is the SEA Skyclub. None of the Skyteam airlines care about the lounges. OW and Star are worlds ahead.
Asia - DL partners mostly with Chinese carriers that do not hold a candle to CX, ANA, JAL, SQ, MH. CI and GA are good but limited flights.
Skyteam lounges are pretty bad. I now think the best Skyteam lounge is the SEA Skyclub. None of the Skyteam airlines care about the lounges. OW and Star are worlds ahead.
Domestic lounges when comparing the big three I still find Skyclub better.
International? Nah, there's better choices.
I am actually referring to the international travel experience. Yes they have free beer but most decent liquor you have to pay for. American has premium liquor free in their international lounges for biz class and up (several being built) and if you are in an Admirals club they will give you drink tickets for premium liquor if you are traveling intl. Its not that valuable but a nice gesture.
Even nice Skyclubs are built for the domestic experience. SEA, SFO and ATL E, and B are exceptionally nice for domestic lounges but none of them compare to some of the wonderful lounges of OW/Star.
Even nice Skyclubs are built for the domestic experience. SEA, SFO and ATL E, and B are exceptionally nice for domestic lounges but none of them compare to some of the wonderful lounges of OW/Star.
