DL Switching to A330s on JFK-LHR?

Old Sep 20, 17, 8:36 am
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Route is only even flown to keep the LHR slot. DL would've put a 767 on another route to LHR using it if they could've.
Indeed, but it is still flown. I will say that it was silly of a previous poster to start an argument over a minor point.
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Old Sep 20, 17, 8:37 am
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Originally Posted by MCO Flyer View Post
There are no more 764s into LHR; it's all 763 and a 75S on PHL-LHR.
I didn't think there were 764s. However i wasn't going to spend time seeing if they were 300 or 400s. Knew they were 767s.
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Old Sep 20, 17, 9:28 am
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I've definitely been on a 764 to LHR recently, they're in the mix.

What's the idea behind the "all 767" strategy? (obviously, there are outliers, an occasional 777 and the PHL 757, etc, but 99% of LHR traffic seems to be on 767s)

Once A330s start on this route, will they be upgauging all of the routes? Or are they going back to a mixed aircraft strategy?
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Old Sep 20, 17, 9:39 am
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Originally Posted by pvn View Post
I've definitely been on a 764 to LHR recently, they're in the mix.

What's the idea behind the "all 767" strategy? (obviously, there are outliers, an occasional 777 and the PHL 757, etc, but 99% of LHR traffic seems to be on 767s)

Once A330s start on this route, will they be upgauging all of the routes? Or are they going back to a mixed aircraft strategy?
US-LHR is generally a more premium O/D route. The 767s have a higher percentage of J seats than the A330s and 777s.
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Originally Posted by pvn View Post

What's the idea behind the "all 767" strategy? (obviously, there are outliers, an occasional 777 and the PHL 757, etc, but 99% of LHR traffic seems to be on 767s)

Maybe so that equip swaps have minimal impact?
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Old Sep 20, 17, 10:39 am
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Originally Posted by WWads View Post
US-LHR is generally a more premium O/D route. The 767s have a higher percentage of J seats than the A330s and 777s.
True, but it's the crappiest J product in the DL fleet.
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Old Sep 20, 17, 10:42 am
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True, but it's the crappiest J product in the DL fleet.
True, though at least for the JFK-LHR flights (where I'm guessing a lot of the profit comes from) it is a very short run.
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Old Sep 20, 17, 10:51 am
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I don't mind the 767 seats at all, if I get the one close to the window. Never had to fly a different seat so can't say for sure.
Reverse herringbone is better (but haven't flown DL's), but I do like the 767.
Haven't flown VS UC in 8 or so years, but if they're still using the herringbone seats (feet in the aisle), especially the ones that don't recline much, I'd strongly prefer the 767.

And I avoid BA at all costs unless I can get an upper deck window with the storage shelf/box.
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Old Sep 20, 17, 11:53 am
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I'd love to see non-767 aircraft to LHR. The A330 seats would be a big upgrade and if they can fill the planes it makes a lot of sense given the availability and cost of LHR landing slots.

It will be very interesting to see what the A330neo has for seating configuration. How many J seats? Reverse herringbone? PS or no? If PS, then likely no C+.

It would be very cool if Delta did an A330neo subfleet with extra J seats for markets like LHR, similar to the role of the 764.
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Everyone thinks A330 automatically means the A330-300, but if the rumor is true, I would bet that they would probably put the A330-200 on the route. The A332s would not be that much of a capacity increase (coach would be 200 seats vs 175 on the 763ERs), and J would essentially be the same - 34 seats vs 35 on the 763ERs.

DL has some A332s freeing up as DTW-PEK goes A359, and SEA-HKG goes 777 in 2018. Also, the A332 will be coming to JFK next summer with the start of JFK-LOS.
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Old Sep 20, 17, 7:04 pm
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Originally Posted by ClipperDelta View Post
Everyone thinks A330 automatically means the A330-300, but if the rumor is true, I would bet that they would probably put the A330-200 on the route. The A332s would not be that much of a capacity increase (coach would be 200 seats vs 175 on the 763ERs), and J would essentially be the same - 34 seats vs 35 on the 763ERs.

DL has some A332s freeing up as DTW-PEK goes A359, and SEA-HKG goes 777 in 2018. Also, the A332 will be coming to JFK next summer with the start of JFK-LOS.
That makes a lot of sense. I figured that the A332s would probably switch to TATL after being freed up from the TPAC routes.
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