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Old Sep 18, 2017, 11:40 am
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It looks like DL has suspended the service from JFK-ATH. Got a phone call today from Delta for an itinerary I have in April for the flight. Only options now are connecting through AMS or CDG.

Not ideal, as it adds an extra amount of time.

Wondering if Emirates' decision to add EWR-ATH added to the struggle for the market.
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Old Sep 18, 2017, 11:55 am
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It's seasonal. Maybe next year it's starting a little later? The two daily JFK-ATH flights are still bookable for next summer.
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Old Sep 18, 2017, 11:56 am
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Originally Posted by paterwdb
It looks like DL has suspended the service from JFK-ATH. Got a phone call today from Delta for an itinerary I have in April for the flight. Only options now are connecting through AMS or CDG.

Not ideal, as it adds an extra amount of time.

Wondering if Emirates' decision to add EWR-ATH added to the struggle for the market.
Bummer, I'd say this increases the odds that the other summer seasonals JFK-ARN and PHL-CDG (that I posted about yesterday) were also axed. I have a JFK-ARN trip booked but haven't received a call yet.
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Old Sep 18, 2017, 12:05 pm
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EK has been offering extremely low fares on that route for a while. Can't be helping DL's yields, especially for a leisure-heavy route like that.
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Old Sep 18, 2017, 12:12 pm
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Delta's JFK-ATH is still in the schedule from 4/22/18, and daily from 4/25/18.
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Old Sep 18, 2017, 12:23 pm
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Originally Posted by WWads
EK has been offering extremely low fares on that route for a while. Can't be helping DL's yields, especially for a leisure-heavy route like that.
Where are you seeing that. Everything I see for next summer is EK is 2x the cost of UA or DL. What dates are you looking at?
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Old Sep 18, 2017, 12:25 pm
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I'd love to know where you're seeing that. Everything I see is EK is 2x the cost of UA or DL:
They've recently had some fare sales.
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Old Sep 18, 2017, 12:27 pm
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Originally Posted by WWads
They've recently had some fare sales.
For what dates?
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Old Sep 18, 2017, 12:29 pm
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Originally Posted by FSUnole03
For what dates?
https://thepointsguy.com/2017/08/dea...h-from-392-rt/
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Old Sep 18, 2017, 12:34 pm
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Lovin' it. Most likely a prelude to the next round of pathetic anti-Gulf screeching. accusing EK of predatory pricing to drive a competitor out of the market. I'm sure that "pure as the wind driven snow" DL would never do anything like that in any market.
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Old Sep 18, 2017, 12:47 pm
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Originally Posted by WWads
Ah, sale only valid when booking for 2-people at a time. Valid for some, not relevant for a lot. Try looking at prices for 1 person and they're twice as expensive in J as UA or DL, both of which don't have 3 seat across in J. EK in J on the 77W is one of the worst J products out there.
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Old Sep 18, 2017, 1:04 pm
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EK has the advantage of doing this as a stop on a broader route and also offering F, while the top-of-the-line for DL is J. Those F fares really do pull the PRASM up on a route.
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Old Sep 18, 2017, 2:04 pm
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme
Delta's JFK-ATH is still in the schedule from 4/22/18, and daily from 4/25/18.
Actually the flight restarts Apr 16 2018, about 3 weeks later than originally planned (end of March 2018).
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Old Sep 18, 2017, 4:04 pm
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Originally Posted by FSUnole03
Ah, sale only valid when booking for 2-people at a time. Valid for some, not relevant for a lot. Try looking at prices for 1 person and they're twice as expensive in J as UA or DL, both of which don't have 3 seat across in J. EK in J on the 77W is one of the worst J products out there.
Maybe old EK 777 J. However i believe they're switching to same as A380.
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Old Sep 18, 2017, 5:14 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
Maybe old EK 777 J. However i believe they're switching to same as A380.
Nope, even though they are introducing an improved J seat on the 777, it will still be 2-3-2:

https://runwaygirlnetwork.com/2016/0...business-seat/
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