Standby List Names Got Delta One Seats
Aug 30, 17, 12:52 pm
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Originally Posted by minnyfly
Would have to think that would very uncommon as it doesn't make much sense to buy a ticket as an employee.
Aug 30, 17, 1:14 pm
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Originally Posted by yohanson
What happens if a Delta employee is on a paid coach ticket and there is room in D1? Will they get upgraded?
Originally Posted by minnyfly
8 non-revs on any D1 route isn't unusual. Sometimes there's more. Sometimes there's less. Sometimes there's not enough non-revs to fill the D1 cabin. All depends on the loads for that day.
Would have to think that would very uncommon as it doesn't make much sense to buy a ticket as an employee. But if they do they are treated like a normal passenger.
Aug 30, 17, 1:31 pm
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Originally Posted by pvn
It happens all the time because sometimes people are more interested in making sure they'll be on the flight than they are in praying that there are empty seats for them to get for free.
Originally Posted by ChiefNWA
8 is actually pretty low. I've been on lists of 60+ on multiple occasions. International flights I'd say the average is about 15. I was recently on the 747 DTW-AMS with about 25 open in J and roughly 40 people on the list.
Aug 30, 17, 2:25 pm
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Seems like it would really help reduce confusion if Delta changed some terminology so that they weren't using the same terms to describe different things.
We tend to think of the standby list as being a list of passengers who are not ticketed on our flight, but hope to find an open seat (SDS). I have been told that the "Standby List" is not necessarily comprised of those people, though it may well include some of them. It is primarily a list of confirmed passengers who have a ticket on that flight, but do not yet have an assigned seat.
So you could have passengers who bought a first class ticket but didn't select a seat at booking (or checkin), who would move from the standby list directly to FC. This could also be true for C+, and obviously for main cabin. You could have E fares, you could have non-revs. More likely, you could have a combination of some or all of these things. I once used an RUC about 4 hours before a flight, was told that it cleared immediately by the Diamond Desk, but didn't get a seat assignment and found myself on the Standby List at the airport. I was first to clear when the GA started processing, but it made me pretty nervous for a while.
Summary - Standby List is not equal to "standby passenger". Seems like they could avoid a lot of confusion and avert a lot of "Shena" allegations if they changed "Standby List" to "Awaiting Seat Assignment", or something like that.
We tend to think of the standby list as being a list of passengers who are not ticketed on our flight, but hope to find an open seat (SDS). I have been told that the "Standby List" is not necessarily comprised of those people, though it may well include some of them. It is primarily a list of confirmed passengers who have a ticket on that flight, but do not yet have an assigned seat.
So you could have passengers who bought a first class ticket but didn't select a seat at booking (or checkin), who would move from the standby list directly to FC. This could also be true for C+, and obviously for main cabin. You could have E fares, you could have non-revs. More likely, you could have a combination of some or all of these things. I once used an RUC about 4 hours before a flight, was told that it cleared immediately by the Diamond Desk, but didn't get a seat assignment and found myself on the Standby List at the airport. I was first to clear when the GA started processing, but it made me pretty nervous for a while.
Summary - Standby List is not equal to "standby passenger". Seems like they could avoid a lot of confusion and avert a lot of "Shena" allegations if they changed "Standby List" to "Awaiting Seat Assignment", or something like that.
Aug 30, 17, 5:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Corganbr
I want to write a complaint letter to DL but thought I should check here before I do.
Aug 30, 17, 6:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Corganbr
How can you tell they are non-revs by looking at the standby list?
Originally Posted by tuono07
How can you tell a non rev on the standby list?
Aug 30, 17, 7:20 pm
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Originally Posted by RRDD
Want D1? Quit current job, get new one with Delta.
Happens frequently. An FO next to me on a flight from GIG was incensed when several folks in middle seats around him were moved up to Business. He calmed down after I told him he would have to take a 50% cut in pay for the same privilege.
Happens frequently. An FO next to me on a flight from GIG was incensed when several folks in middle seats around him were moved up to Business. He calmed down after I told him he would have to take a 50% cut in pay for the same privilege.
Aug 30, 17, 7:20 pm
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme
A GUC by the OP properly listed would have cleared before the standby non-revs. Mileage upgrades? Who knows.
Aug 30, 17, 7:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Widgets
You can't. Everyone on the standby list who got a Delta One seat could've been confirmed Delta One customers who needed seat assignments.
Originally Posted by pvn
Some people Just Know.
Originally Posted by tuono07
How can you tell a non rev on the standby list?
Aug 30, 17, 7:50 pm
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As an airline pilot myself (former delta connection), the non-rev benefit is something that is great when it works, but an absolute nightmare when it doesn't. Over the last few years I've non-revved domestically and internationally. Domestically 80% of the time I was in Y, 15% in C+, and 5% F. There were however countless times I'd come nowhere close to clearing the standby list. As a DL connection pilot we were below DL mainline employee (both active and retired) so it could be very tricky. Internationally I always cleared to C+, but never made the cut to D1.
I'm still a pilot, but for a non DL affiliated carrier. So my priority is even lower than a DL buddy pass. I don't even attempt it anymore. Too much hassle. I'm back to buying confirmed tickets (Y and the occasional F) to gain status, miles, and overall avoid the headache.
I believe it is correct airline employees should receive these benefits, but I also believe they should drastically limit the benefit to a certain number of segments per year. It's to the point that many airline employees (myself included) can't enjoy this perk of the job because of the dozens and dozens of non revs that list for each flight.
I'm still a pilot, but for a non DL affiliated carrier. So my priority is even lower than a DL buddy pass. I don't even attempt it anymore. Too much hassle. I'm back to buying confirmed tickets (Y and the occasional F) to gain status, miles, and overall avoid the headache.
I believe it is correct airline employees should receive these benefits, but I also believe they should drastically limit the benefit to a certain number of segments per year. It's to the point that many airline employees (myself included) can't enjoy this perk of the job because of the dozens and dozens of non revs that list for each flight.
