LGA Flight Cancelled due to "Ground Delay"
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LGA Flight Cancelled due to "Ground Delay"
Thankfully I was able to switch to a flight out of JFK, despite the extra cab fare that I'm not happy about but have to be home by a certain time.
Has anyone experienced this? It's raining in NYC but doesn't look like any of the other NYC -> PIT flights were affected.
Has anyone experienced this? It's raining in NYC but doesn't look like any of the other NYC -> PIT flights were affected.
#2
Join Date: Nov 2011
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There is a weather waiver for the NYC area airports. Delays and cancellations are to be expected in the area all day.
Delta Travel Exception Policy
New York City Area Weather - Bulletin 1
(August 17, 2017) - Delta Air Lines is offering a waiver to assist customers who may be impacted by forecasted weather in the New York City area.
Exception Policy Overview
To view complete policy details, please visit the Delta Professional website.
Applies to Tickets Issued On or Before:
August 17, 2017
Affected Area:
• Newburgh, NY (SWF)
• New York, NY-Kennedy (JFK)
• New York, NY-LaGuardia (LGA)
• Newark, NJ (EWR)
• White Plains, NY (HPN)
Date of Impacted Travel:
August 18, 2017
Tickets Must Be Reissued On or Before:
August 21, 2017
New Travel Must Originate On or Before:
August 21, 2017
Rebooking Type:
Cabin to Cabin
Documentation Details
Waiver Codes
Cabin to Cabin:
C6R8T
Waive Change Fee:
G3K7E
OSI:
CHANGES PER NYC AREA WEATHER 17AUG17
REFUNDED PER NYC AREA WEATHER 17AUG17
ALL EXCEPTION POLICIES
Delta Air Lines Sales | 1030 Delta Boulevard | Atlanta, Georgia 30354, US
Delta Travel Exception Policy
New York City Area Weather - Bulletin 1
(August 17, 2017) - Delta Air Lines is offering a waiver to assist customers who may be impacted by forecasted weather in the New York City area.
Exception Policy Overview
To view complete policy details, please visit the Delta Professional website.
Applies to Tickets Issued On or Before:
August 17, 2017
Affected Area:
• Newburgh, NY (SWF)
• New York, NY-Kennedy (JFK)
• New York, NY-LaGuardia (LGA)
• Newark, NJ (EWR)
• White Plains, NY (HPN)
Date of Impacted Travel:
August 18, 2017
Tickets Must Be Reissued On or Before:
August 21, 2017
New Travel Must Originate On or Before:
August 21, 2017
Rebooking Type:
Cabin to Cabin
Documentation Details
Waiver Codes
Cabin to Cabin:
C6R8T
Waive Change Fee:
G3K7E
OSI:
CHANGES PER NYC AREA WEATHER 17AUG17
REFUNDED PER NYC AREA WEATHER 17AUG17
ALL EXCEPTION POLICIES
Delta Air Lines Sales | 1030 Delta Boulevard | Atlanta, Georgia 30354, US
#3
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Thankfully I was able to switch to a flight out of JFK, despite the extra cab fare that I'm not happy about but have to be home by a certain time.
Has anyone experienced this? It's raining in NYC but doesn't look like any of the other NYC -> PIT flights were affected.
Has anyone experienced this? It's raining in NYC but doesn't look like any of the other NYC -> PIT flights were affected.
Had the same thing 2 weeks ago on a friday. Any form of rain just throws everything into a tizzy.
Ended up on a flight 6 hours delayed, back to gate for a refuel and a go-around in PIT so all in all ...FUN!
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#4
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I did the opposite, but just as frustrating. I figured I'd gamble with the weather waiver, I couldn't leave any earlier and I didn't really want to delay my trip into BNA. Wrong choice!
Flying JFK-BNA today (6p departure), woke up at 8am to a notification that it had been cancelled. Rebooking tool was showing me some fantastic options, 3 flights starting at 10am that would take me to a 5 hour layover in GRR before landing me at BNA.
Called into the Plat line and got rebooked on LGA-DTW-BNA arriving just a couple hours later than originally planned, but who knows if that'll happen given the weather situation right now.
This has been all too common here in the NYC area (and the larger NE) this year. A bit of bad weather throws everything into disarray, and it can take a looong time for ops to get back to normal after something like this happens
Flying JFK-BNA today (6p departure), woke up at 8am to a notification that it had been cancelled. Rebooking tool was showing me some fantastic options, 3 flights starting at 10am that would take me to a 5 hour layover in GRR before landing me at BNA.
Called into the Plat line and got rebooked on LGA-DTW-BNA arriving just a couple hours later than originally planned, but who knows if that'll happen given the weather situation right now.
This has been all too common here in the NYC area (and the larger NE) this year. A bit of bad weather throws everything into disarray, and it can take a looong time for ops to get back to normal after something like this happens
#5
Join Date: Sep 2010
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I did the opposite, but just as frustrating. I figured I'd gamble with the weather waiver, I couldn't leave any earlier and I didn't really want to delay my trip into BNA. Wrong choice!
Flying JFK-BNA today (6p departure), woke up at 8am to a notification that it had been cancelled. Rebooking tool was showing me some fantastic options, 3 flights starting at 10am that would take me to a 5 hour layover in GRR before landing me at BNA.
Flying JFK-BNA today (6p departure), woke up at 8am to a notification that it had been cancelled. Rebooking tool was showing me some fantastic options, 3 flights starting at 10am that would take me to a 5 hour layover in GRR before landing me at BNA.
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#7
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Looks like some fairly strong showers just crossed LGA eastbound in the last hour. The specific LGA Groundstop has been lifted, they are now in their normal flow program - chances are they will be playing catch-up for the rest of the day.
However - there is a WashCenter groundstop, a little unusual. Scope: "TRAFFIC ARRIVING OR CROSSING ZBW AIRSPACE ROUTED THROUGH ZDC" / Reason: "NO ROUTES".
There are only 3 ways into LGA: From the south (over the Chesapeake), from the west (Central PA), or the north (down the Hudson Valley) and the north arrival doesnt see nearly as much traffic as the other 2. So, the majority of traffic comes over the other 2 arrivals; and for the near future, one of them is shut down for reasons completely unrelated to LGA or NY Tracon. Weather doesnt look to promising for the west arrival either.
Anyone departing NYC - the departure fixes that ATC uses to get you out of the area are also going to be causing problems for the foreseeable future.
Good luck to all!
However - there is a WashCenter groundstop, a little unusual. Scope: "TRAFFIC ARRIVING OR CROSSING ZBW AIRSPACE ROUTED THROUGH ZDC" / Reason: "NO ROUTES".
There are only 3 ways into LGA: From the south (over the Chesapeake), from the west (Central PA), or the north (down the Hudson Valley) and the north arrival doesnt see nearly as much traffic as the other 2. So, the majority of traffic comes over the other 2 arrivals; and for the near future, one of them is shut down for reasons completely unrelated to LGA or NY Tracon. Weather doesnt look to promising for the west arrival either.
Anyone departing NYC - the departure fixes that ATC uses to get you out of the area are also going to be causing problems for the foreseeable future.
Good luck to all!
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I got the notice of the weather waiver yesterday and change my late afternoon today DCA-JFK-LHR to DCA-ATL-LHR.
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I was nervous at first as my flight was 3:30-515PM out of LGA, and there were a bunch of other afternoon flights still available and it wasn't letting me change. Found the 3:15 out of JFK.
I just found it odd that it was only this specific LGA->PIT route that was cancelled, but I won't pretend that I know the reason, just didn't understand fully what "Ground Delay" meant other than maybe the plane was backed up on one of it's earlier routes.
I just found it odd that it was only this specific LGA->PIT route that was cancelled, but I won't pretend that I know the reason, just didn't understand fully what "Ground Delay" meant other than maybe the plane was backed up on one of it's earlier routes.
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I was nervous at first as my flight was 3:30-515PM out of LGA, and there were a bunch of other afternoon flights still available and it wasn't letting me change. Found the 3:15 out of JFK.
I just found it odd that it was only this specific LGA->PIT route that was cancelled, but I won't pretend that I know the reason, just didn't understand fully what "Ground Delay" meant other than maybe the plane was backed up on one of it's earlier routes.
I just found it odd that it was only this specific LGA->PIT route that was cancelled, but I won't pretend that I know the reason, just didn't understand fully what "Ground Delay" meant other than maybe the plane was backed up on one of it's earlier routes.
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Flightaware is showing numerous other DL Connection carrier (ExpressJet, Endeavor, etc) flights cancelled out of LGA today. It is definitely more than this route that is being affected. As usual, the Connection carriers flights tend to be more impacted than mainline as those flights are the first to be cancelled when there are ATC issues limiting operations.
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Am I better off purposely connecting to lga via ATL? I have been delayed and cancelled more than I would like on the Dayton flights. I've even tried the CVG directs and have been burned in and out of lga.
Is Atlanta less likely to be impacted? At least I could get out of lga.
Thoughts?
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Flightaware is showing numerous other DL Connection carrier (ExpressJet, Endeavor, etc) flights cancelled out of LGA today. It is definitely more than this route that is being affected. As usual, the Connection carriers flights tend to be more impacted than mainline as those flights are the first to be cancelled when there are ATC issues limiting operations.
So now of course, my flight is delayed, and have changed gates twice. Love flying in and out of NY every week! /s
#14
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Ok this is a great point that I would like some more guidance on since I have no clue: I am a pretty seasoned and savy delta travelor and am in and out of LGA several times a month. I live in Dayton OH and usually take the daily direct to lga in the am and then return on the direct in the evening. It's always on a dreadful CRJ 200.
Am I better off purposely connecting to lga via ATL? I have been delayed and cancelled more than I would like on the Dayton flights. I've even tried the CVG directs and have been burned in and out of lga.
Is Atlanta less likely to be impacted? At least I could get out of lga.
Thoughts?
Am I better off purposely connecting to lga via ATL? I have been delayed and cancelled more than I would like on the Dayton flights. I've even tried the CVG directs and have been burned in and out of lga.
Is Atlanta less likely to be impacted? At least I could get out of lga.
Thoughts?
Ground Delay is when a flight holds at the origin, knowing about weather issues along the route or at destination, until the weather clears up.
#15
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I'd be a little frustrated by this. I'm at my home on the UES today, about 20 min from LGA, and while it certainly doesn't qualify as a beautiful day, it really hasn't been that bad. Rained pretty hard around 7 or 8AM-ish, otherwise just sort of gloomy.