What the heck is going on at LGA tonight?
Jul 23, 2017, 7:11 pm
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What the heck is going on at LGA tonight?
What the heck is going on at LGA tonight? Supposedly weather, but what weather type is exactly the problem. Doesn't look wet or windy. 10 miles visibility isn't enough?
Jul 23, 2017, 8:55 pm
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LGA Ground delay program starting at 1700GMT (1 pm Eastern), followed by several ground stops through the afternoon and evening.
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CTL ELEMENT: LGA ELEMENT TYPE: APT ADL TIME: 1608Z DELAY ASSIGNMENT MODE: UDP ARRIVALS ESTIMATED FOR: 23/1700Z - 24/0359Z CUMULATIVE PROGRAM PERIOD: 23/1700Z - 24/0359Z PROGRAM RATE: 36/36/34/32/32/32/32/32/32/32/32 FLT INCL: ALL CONTIGUOUS US DEP DEP SCOPE: (ALL+CZY_AP) ZLA ZAU ZLC ZTL ZDC ZNY ZHU ZJX ZFW ZOB ZDV ZOA ZSE ZBW ZMA ZKC ZME ZID ZAB ZMP CANADIAN DEP ARPTS INCLUDED: CYHZ CYOW CYUL CYYZ CYTZ CYQB DELAY ASSIGNMENT TABLE APPLIES TO: ZNY MAXIMUM DELAY: 117 AVERAGE DELAY: 51 IMPACTING CONDITION: WEATHER / THUNDERSTORMS COMMENTS: ENROUTE AND THROUGH PUT ISSUES
Jul 23, 2017, 10:03 pm
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Jul 24, 2017, 9:26 am
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I am in and out of NYC a few times a month and have found that morning flights are the key. I used to try and fly in early morning, have a few meetings and then fly out later that night. The early flights in to LGA were always fine, but the evening flights back out after a long day were almost always delayed or even cancelled. Sooooo, i now stay a night purposely and fly out the next morning. Its just not worth the hassle of play LGA Evening Roulette.
Jul 24, 2017, 11:59 am
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I concur. Every time I have a sched departure later than 16:00 I encounter some form of ground stop. I usually have an onward connection, so I just make sure I am backstopped appropriately.
But these delays, coupled with the destruction/construction project, have me flying in/out of EWR or JFK when possible. The lesser(s) of three evils, I guess.
But these delays, coupled with the destruction/construction project, have me flying in/out of EWR or JFK when possible. The lesser(s) of three evils, I guess.
Jul 24, 2017, 12:28 pm
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Today is worse, even without a ground stop. My 12:40 PM to MKE is delayed until 4:13 PM. I get that weather wreaks havoc on airports, but NYC airports, especially LGA, seem to take so much longer to recover than other airports. And I don't think it's jutstbthe air traffic.
Jul 24, 2017, 12:34 pm
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Today is worse, even without a ground stop. My 12:40 PM to MKE is delayed until 4:13 PM. I get that weather wreaks havoc on airports, but NYC airports, especially LGA, seem to take so much longer to recover than other airports. And I don't think it's jutstbthe air traffic.
The overall ATC situation has a lot to do with it. During peak times, ZNY/ZBW/ZDC are packed to the gills, and there's not much extra slack when things go south. Exhibit A of why the US needs a complete ATC overhaul. True high-speed rail in the NEC would also help a lot, but that's getting off-topic.
Last edited by KDCAflyer; Jul 24, 2017 at 12:39 pm
Jul 24, 2017, 12:45 pm
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Jul 24, 2017, 12:50 pm
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