Sep 26, 2017, 1:09 pm
Last edit by: Renes Points
On 26SEPT17 Delta changed the MQD AMEX exempt requirements. $25,000 only exempts you to Platinum or lower. $250,000 spend needed across ALL the DL AMEX cards you hold (personal and business in your name) for Diamond exemption for 2019 elite year.
If all you are interested in is the discussion starting when the announcement occurred on Tuesday, September 26, 2017, start here.
The Delta announcement is here https://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/skymiles/news-and-updates.html
There are many data points that Delta will allow a one time exception under the 2017 qualification rules if you request this for the 2019 Medallion year.
If all you are interested in is the discussion starting when the announcement occurred on Tuesday, September 26, 2017, start here.
The Delta announcement is here https://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/skymiles/news-and-updates.html
There are many data points that Delta will allow a one time exception under the 2017 qualification rules if you request this for the 2019 Medallion year.
Delta increasing Diamond MQD Waiver to $250,000
Dec 21, 2018, 1:49 pm
#1921
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: ATL - DL DM/3MM - HH Lifetime Diamond - Marriott Lifetime Plat
Posts: 3,117
And I will make sure to let DL know how this pi**es me off that I played by the rules and increased spend to reach MQD and the inconsistency in their actual rules.
What's ironic is I actually was more profitable to them than you yet they were apparently more concerned with your perception of this than mine.
What's ironic is I actually was more profitable to them than you yet they were apparently more concerned with your perception of this than mine.
Dec 21, 2018, 2:06 pm
#1922
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: Delta DM, United 1K, Bonvoy Plat Elite, HHonors Silver, Hertz PC, Nat'l Executive Elite
Posts: 47
And I will make sure to let DL know how this pi**es me off that I played by the rules and increased spend to reach MQD and the inconsistency in their actual rules.
What's ironic is I actually was more profitable to them than you yet they were apparently more concerned with your perception of this than mine.
What's ironic is I actually was more profitable to them than you yet they were apparently more concerned with your perception of this than mine.
Dec 21, 2018, 4:53 pm
#1923
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Look up - On a ✈ DELTA ✈ jet NOW!
Programs: Blogger & Delta Diamond Medallion Million Miler
Posts: 4,174
No you don't. Read again. They say:
Delta and its program partners reserve the right to change program rules, benefits, mileage regulations, Award Travel, Medallion qualification requirements and levels, fees, Award prices, Pay with Miles terms and conditions, and special offers at any time without notice. - https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...ram-rules.html
The rules are whatever they say they are. Period!
Delta and its program partners reserve the right to change program rules, benefits, mileage regulations, Award Travel, Medallion qualification requirements and levels, fees, Award prices, Pay with Miles terms and conditions, and special offers at any time without notice. - https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...ram-rules.html
The rules are whatever they say they are. Period!
Dec 21, 2018, 8:33 pm
#1925
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: MSN
Programs: Delta DM, Bonvoy LT Titanium, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,987
No you don't. Read again. They say:
Delta and its program partners reserve the right to change program rules, benefits, mileage regulations, Award Travel, Medallion qualification requirements and levels, fees, Award prices, Pay with Miles terms and conditions, and special offers at any time without notice. - https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...ram-rules.html
The rules are whatever they say they are. Period!
Delta and its program partners reserve the right to change program rules, benefits, mileage regulations, Award Travel, Medallion qualification requirements and levels, fees, Award prices, Pay with Miles terms and conditions, and special offers at any time without notice. - https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...ram-rules.html
The rules are whatever they say they are. Period!
Dec 21, 2018, 9:11 pm
#1926
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: SEA
Programs: DL DM
Posts: 292
Those of us who play the Amex Spend game; it is just that, a game, of trying to get status without flying, or spending, a LOT. I ended up on the DM side of the fence so I don't care, but I'm sure I would be bummed if I ended up on the other, PM or lesser, side.
Delta can do whatever they want and that unfortunately also includes waiving their rules and letting someone jump the fence. I sense there must have been a memo circulated to tighten down the ropes, but a select few agents continue to grant waivers.
It's not like the waiver amount was announced mid-year, it was announced in September 2017. They had their reasons and the outrage cannot be of surprise to them.
Delta can do whatever they want and that unfortunately also includes waiving their rules and letting someone jump the fence. I sense there must have been a memo circulated to tighten down the ropes, but a select few agents continue to grant waivers.
It's not like the waiver amount was announced mid-year, it was announced in September 2017. They had their reasons and the outrage cannot be of surprise to them.
Dec 21, 2018, 9:36 pm
#1927
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Look up - On a ✈ DELTA ✈ jet NOW!
Programs: Blogger & Delta Diamond Medallion Million Miler
Posts: 4,174
Those of us who play the Amex Spend game; it is just that, a game, of trying to get status without flying, or spending, a LOT. I ended up on the DM side of the fence so I don't care, but I'm sure I would be bummed if I ended up on the other, PM or lesser, side.
Delta can do whatever they want and that unfortunately also includes waiving their rules and letting someone jump the fence. I sense there must have been a memo circulated to tighten down the ropes, but a select few agents continue to grant waivers.
It's not like the waiver amount was announced mid-year, it was announced in September 2017. They had their reasons and the outrage cannot be of surprise to them.
Delta can do whatever they want and that unfortunately also includes waiving their rules and letting someone jump the fence. I sense there must have been a memo circulated to tighten down the ropes, but a select few agents continue to grant waivers.
It's not like the waiver amount was announced mid-year, it was announced in September 2017. They had their reasons and the outrage cannot be of surprise to them.
Bottom line is the rules are whatever Delta says at any given time. They run the game and make up the rules as they go. These are the facts.
Dec 22, 2018, 1:58 am
#1928
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: SEA
Programs: DL DM
Posts: 292
It was never "announced". Someone on a Facebook private group posted on twitter that Delta was offering the waver. I have learned Delta stared offering the waver in early January of 2018 but few were aware (my guess is due to bat crazy 1/4M spend jump email flood to VA ave).
Bottom line is the rules are whatever Delta says at any given time. They run the game and make up the rules as they go. These are the facts.
Bottom line is the rules are whatever Delta says at any given time. They run the game and make up the rules as they go. These are the facts.
Dec 22, 2018, 7:49 am
#1929
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: ATL
Programs: DL DM, UA Plat, HH
Posts: 103
I emailed for waiver 2 weeks ago and still no response, so inquired about my open case via twitter and was told current response times were ~ 4 weeks. That sounds a bit long - or they’re putting us off intentionally.
Dec 22, 2018, 8:23 am
#1930
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: HSV
Programs: Bellevue Lifetime Premiere Mega Elite Supreme
Posts: 1,509
Dec 22, 2018, 10:03 am
#1931
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,368
The max you can get in a year is:
- 2 x 10k = 20k for Platinum Personal
- 2 x 10k = 20k for Platinum Business
- 2 x 15k = 30k for Reserve Personal
- 2 x 15k = 30k for Reserve Business
NO, only Reserve card MQMs can be gifted.
Dec 23, 2018, 8:01 am
#1932
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: RDU
Programs: DL(PM), UA(Silver), AA(EXP) Marriott(Ti), HH(Gold), Hertz(PC)
Posts: 2,650
Dec 23, 2018, 8:37 am
#1933
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: MSN
Programs: Delta DM, Bonvoy LT Titanium, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,987
That’s like saying granting a pardon is changing the law. A waiver explicitly means Delta is not requiring you to meet the rules to qualify for DM. With that said the T&C explicitly allow DL to grant waivers and those of us who followed the rules are allowed to be annoyed by it.
Dec 23, 2018, 12:24 pm
#1934
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Finally back in Boston after escaping from New York
Posts: 13,643
It seems like we're splitting hairs in this "they're changing rules" vs. "they have the right to do whatever they please" debate. Does it really matter? The end result is the same: Delta is making an exception to the minimum spending, which is inflating the number of Diamonds.
Mike
Mike
Dec 27, 2018, 7:59 pm
#1935
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CT
Programs: DL DM 2MM, MR LTT, Hilton D, Hertz PC. National Emerald Exec, UA Silver(thanks to Marriott)
Posts: 2,026
