Delta releases documentary highlighting ME3 subsidies
Jul 18, 2017, 12:43 pm
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Jul 19, 2017, 5:26 am
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I must have missed the part in the documentary about all the subsidies DL have and continues to receive... fuel tax breaks, bankruptcy protection, dumping pension obligations on the government. As Paki81 notes, if DL had a better product, more people would fly them. Give it up DL, stop acting and whining like a 2 year old.
And don't forget the half billion dollars Delta got from the taxpayers after 9/11 and the cabotage laws that prevent international airlines from transporting passengers within the USA
Jul 20, 2017, 2:26 am
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Looks like little Napoleon is still at it. Sickening to listen to.
Akbar Al Baker You are being served by grandmothers on American carriers - YouTube
Akbar Al Baker You are being served by grandmothers on American carriers - YouTube
Akbar Al-Baker doesn't sound that much worse than the current occupant of the Oval Office. Oh, he also apologized for the "grandmothers" comment a week ago.
As crude as his statements are, Al-Baker's not wrong. I'm going to get a lot of flak for this, but the relatively young age of his FAs are probably yet another free market decision: the halo effect is well-documented. Attractiveness can subliminally influence the impressions of others in a positive direction, particularly in the customer service arena. That's just how it is.
Jul 20, 2017, 8:15 am
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Oh, come on.
Akbar Al-Baker doesn't sound that much worse than the current occupant of the Oval Office. Oh, he also apologized for the "grandmothers" comment a week ago.
As crude as his statements are, Al-Baker's not wrong. I'm going to get a lot of flak for this, but the relatively young age of his FAs are probably yet another free market decision: the halo effect is well-documented. Attractiveness can subliminally influence the impressions of others in a positive direction, particularly in the customer service arena. That's just how it is.
Akbar Al-Baker doesn't sound that much worse than the current occupant of the Oval Office. Oh, he also apologized for the "grandmothers" comment a week ago.
As crude as his statements are, Al-Baker's not wrong. I'm going to get a lot of flak for this, but the relatively young age of his FAs are probably yet another free market decision: the halo effect is well-documented. Attractiveness can subliminally influence the impressions of others in a positive direction, particularly in the customer service arena. That's just how it is.
Jul 25, 2017, 7:49 am
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What is not clear to me .... is why Delta thinks I should believe that QR is getting all sorts of subsidies when nearly every QR (or Emirates/Etihad) flight I price is more expensive than other national/legacy carrier (this is for J).
If anything, I'm willingly paying a premium to fly these better airlines.....
If anything, I'm willingly paying a premium to fly these better airlines.....
Jul 25, 2017, 8:00 am
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In the past year I've flown the ME3 carriers, Turkish, Aeroflot, El Al and Vietnam. DL has fallen very far behind on its economy product compared to those state owned and/or financed carriers. I've also flown Korean, KLM, AirFrance, British and various Asian LCCs. DL would be equal to those. On a recent flight to TLV, DL would have been $2,600 while Aeroflot was well under $1,000. Aeroflot was fantastic, with more distance between the seats, better service and even better blankets.
I agree, lets get more state owned airlines so w can get low fares. Come to think of it. lets get state owned gas and oil and food supplies.
Worked well in Venezuela
I agree, lets get more state owned airlines so w can get low fares. Come to think of it. lets get state owned gas and oil and food supplies.
Worked well in Venezuela
Jul 26, 2017, 7:35 am
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In the past year I've flown the ME3 carriers, Turkish, Aeroflot, El Al and Vietnam. DL has fallen very far behind on its economy product compared to those state owned and/or financed carriers. I've also flown Korean, KLM, AirFrance, British and various Asian LCCs. DL would be equal to those. On a recent flight to TLV, DL would have been $2,600 while Aeroflot was well under $1,000. Aeroflot was fantastic, with more distance between the seats, better service and even better blankets.
I agree, lets get more state owned airlines so w can get low fares. Come to think of it. lets get state owned gas and oil and food supplies.
Worked well in Venezuela
I agree, lets get more state owned airlines so w can get low fares. Come to think of it. lets get state owned gas and oil and food supplies.
Worked well in Venezuela
The service on Korean, and Asian carriers overall -- nine out of ten times is superior to what I get on the US3.
I personally find ME3 prices to be higher than most of their competitors, in fact. The reality is that ME3 have grown rapidly because they're very close to two highly populated countries called India and China, both of whom have averaged annual GDP growth of around 6-8% over the last couple decades. They've implemented the hub-and-spoke model extremely efficiently.
State-owned or not, what consumers want is competition. If only foreign airlines could start flying domestic routes...
Jul 26, 2017, 7:57 am
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Ummm... Politicians and regulators. Employees to some extent. Heck, the press release includes the following:
Quote:
Delta has urged employees to watch the video, share it with friends and family, and join Delta in asking the U.S. government to take action.
Like I said, I continue to be unclear why many FTers have so much trouble grasping the obvious. The end game is not to get flyers to boycott the ME3 and never has been. The end game is to get the US government to limit their ability to fly to the US.
Quote:
Delta has urged employees to watch the video, share it with friends and family, and join Delta in asking the U.S. government to take action.
Like I said, I continue to be unclear why many FTers have so much trouble grasping the obvious. The end game is not to get flyers to boycott the ME3 and never has been. The end game is to get the US government to limit their ability to fly to the US.