DL in J - A333 or B764
 

Which would be better for TATL in J: A333 (new seat) or B764 (older seat)?

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There are threads in the DL forum describing and comparing these aircraft.

Plenty of discussion on DL forum (will alert mod) but the short answer is the A330 is better.

That being said if the A330 is inconvenient for whatever reason (tight connection, really long connection, etc.) the 764 is perfectly acceptable - especially if you can get a seat in Row 1 (extra space for your feet).

First of thank you and sorry for posting in the wrong section.

Actually I would be able to get the row 1 in B764 for the outbound leg. Does the more legroom apply for the window seats, middle seats or both?

I prefer A330 for sleeping, 767 for daytime. 767 has a better console area, but feels coffin-like for sleeping. The footwells for all of row 1 on a 767 are much more spacious than the rest of the rows which are very restrictive.

Since the first two answers to your question, did nothing but berate you. Here is my opinion , the A333

It applies to all of the row 1 seats. It isn't more legroom, per se, but a much larger footwell. It ends up having somewhat the same effect as more legroom, though, but also makes movement in bed much easier.

You will hear a lot of people complain about the 767 seats, but I actually think that the row 1 seats are quite nice. I like the large side tables, especially. If you are on the larger side (say 6'2"+ or over 230 lbs), I could see the bed being cramped, but for folks under that, I think the "coffin" criticisms are overstated. For non-row 1, I do think the footwell is tight, almost uncomfortably so.

In short, if you aren't a bigger person and can get row 1, I would choose on schedule, even though I think the A330 seat is better.

A333 no question.

This!

Schedule and connection would work better with the A333 for me. It's probably decided then.
Thank you all for inputs.

Just got back from a mileage upgrade to J on the 764, MXP-ATL. The missus and I sat in 1B-1C. We really enjoyed the trip. Also, and maybe this is because we started in Italy, but Delta's food on this particular flight was the best I can remember in some time.

We did 1B and 1C on the 763 to LHR last month and it was great for sleeping. I slept probably 6ish hours? Did the express dinner and slept until about 30 min before landing and had no issues (about 5'11, 160).

As for food, it must be something about Italy catering. Our FCO - ATL flight home in C+ was the best Y catering I've had in years, easily better than any domestic F I've had the last few years (except maybe UA old PS/D1)

If you are petite then both are fine. If you are larger then the A330 is better.

Surely the reverse herring bone on the A330 will always be superior to the 767 seat. I can't see why anyone would ever pick the 767 seat over the A330 IMO.

I do, because my "smaller" personal item with meds, books, toiletries, spare socks, etc. fits exactly in the space in front of the console and the seat back ahead when using even-numbered A or D seats on the 767 -- eliminates the need to get up and move about the cabin to reach the overheads when I need something during the flight. It allows open and easy access to the aisle, and I've never been bothered by people moving in the aisle, despite some other people complaining about this. The lack of similar storage on the 330's makes it less desirable for me. But some of the 767 seats are really beginning to show and feel their age. Since I'm well under 6 feet tall I fit into most seats just fine, but larger folks may not fare as well.

Well I am 6'2, so that A333 it is.

Much easier to look out the window from an odd seat on the 767 I think.
I like these seats. Haven't been on DL's A330, but I do like AA/CX's version a lot. But the 767 are fine for me (5'8") and I wouldn't go out of my way to avoid, but I understand if you're bigger you might.

As long as its Row 1, 767 is great!

Does not feel tight to me

I'm only 5'8 and still find the A333 seats far more comfortable. Just flew DL One last week and was impressed.

I despise the coffin seats on the 764s

After reading all the FT threads, I also thought the same thing. Then I actually flew both planes and decided I like the 767 over the 330. It's personal preference, not an absolute. FWIW, Mrs. Lee agrees.

I'm 5'6" and she's 5'4" - we're both average build. The footwells didn't bother us. Mrs. Lee likes a "cozy" sleeping arrangement so the "walls" of the bed were actually a positive over the open/exposed nature of the reverse herringbone. When flying solo, odd-numbered windows on the 767 are easier to look out of and definitely feels more private than any seat o the 330. As a pair, middle seats on the 767 are easier to talk to each other from than the 330, where your heads are much further apart.

List could go on. They are both good seats and when both are options, I'll let price/schedule decide. But all else being equal, I'll raise my hand anytime someone asks "Who would prefer the 767 seat?" :)

I think the A330 is better if you're alone, but I like the 764 better when traveling with someone else. The middle pair gets you plenty of personal space, but you can still talk and see each other when you want to. If you're traveling with a child, the 764 middle pair is way easier to reach across if you need to help them with something.

In addition to the window views, which I mentioned earlier, good points about the privacy (in those same seats; it's not great in the seats that are directly on the aisle), as well as couples traveling together.

Which is better on a 333 for a couple on a daytime TATL (AMS-JFK), Row 1 or 5?

I don't think row 1 gets any extra space on the 333 so I would pick row 5 just to be away from the galley/restroom/closet. However, the way the 333 seats work none of them are very good for sitting together since the seats aren't very close together (although they are angled to sort of face each other).

One advantage to row 1 is the "shelves" on top of where the PTVs fold in since there's no seat in front. I've sat in 2J before (first row of the window) and the lav/galley was not bothersome at all. But I sleep well on planes so take that FWIW.

I'll second pretty much everything gooselee has enunciated here ... as a look-out-the-window-aholic, my biggest gripe about the reverse herringbone config is that my feet are closest to the window and my head is where is would be in a normal (2-2 F) aisle seat; moreover, any traffic in the aisle represents a more significant opportunity for disturbance, and -- especially in the A seats on an overnight flight -- the noise and light from the galley can be annoying

I have found this to be less of an issue than some others report. If the seat is in lie flat mode it is hard to see the other person, but when sitting upright it's not bad. I would say it's enough privacy that if the other person is not your companion you feel like you have personal space but not so much that if it is your companion you can't talk with them.

I actually don't think the A330 aren't bad to sit next to a person, assuming the middle seats. The 777 (opposite angles) is another story.