Jun 20, 17, 7:21 pm

FlyerTalk Forums Expert How-Tos and Guides

Initial flights:

DTW>NRT effective Oct 30 2017 (from B744). Inaugural A350 flight, flown by N502DN.
DTW>ICN effective Nov 18 2017 (in conjunction with the B744). First flight flown by N501DN. Transitioned to the A350 Dec 18 2017.
DTW>PEK effective Jan 17 2018 (in conjunction with the A332). First flight flown by N503DN. Transitioned to the A350 Feb 13 2018.
DTW>AMS effective March 31 2018 (from A332/333) - DL132/133 only.
DTW>PVG effective April 19 2018 (from B744/B777).

ATL>ICN effective March 24 2018 (from B777).

LAX>PVG effective July 2 2018 (alternated with the B777 until July 18 2018).

Press Releases Regarding A350 Routes
http://news.delta.com/delta-s-new-a3...eon-march-2018
http://news.delta.com/delta-expands-...rope-and-china

Related threads:
2017 The Year of the A350
Are there enough toilets on the new A350?
UA 77W Polaris vs DL A350 DeltaOne in Business

All cabins feature wifi, USB power, and AVOD at every seat.

Delta One (business/first seats, rows 1-9)
* Features 32 of the new Delta One Suites with lie-flat seats, 22-24" width, and 76-81" length in a 1-2-1 configuration.
* A full-height door at every suite and sliding privacy dividers between center suites
* In-suite, customizable ambient lighting; dedicated stowage compartments for shoes, headphones and laptops; and memory foam-enhanced comfort cushion
* An 18-inch, high resolution in-flight entertainment monitor and 110-volt power
* Delta's webpage on the new suites: https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...ess-class.html

Delta Premium Select (premium economy seats, rows 20-25)
* Has 48 seats with 18.5" width, 38" pitch, up to 7" of recline, and adjustable leg rests in a 2-4-2 configuration
* Up to a 13.3-inch, high resolution in-flight entertainment screen and 110-volt power
* Delta's webpage on these new seats: https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...m-economy.html

Main Cabin (economy seats, rows 30-55)
* Has 226 seats with 18" width and 31-32" pitch in a 3-3-3 configuration.
* Preferred seats are window and aisle seats in rows 30-33, 41, and all seats in exit row 40
* Does not have 110-volt power

Config of the 3-class cabin was…D1/32 seats...PS/48 seats...MC/226 seats for a total 306 seats. This config was on the first 13 frames (3501-3513) delivered and then subsequently they were updated to the 4-class cabin as detailed below.

Config of the 4-class cabin is...D1/32 seats...PS/48 seats...C+/36 seats...MC/190 seats for a total of 306 seats.

Seat map (link to Delta webpage)

359 (4 class) cabin tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ3D-xZGfAs
35L (ex-Latam) cabin tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgO-Os_rLCk

A350 Current Routes:
DTW>NRT Started Oct 30 2017 (from B744). First flight was flown by N502DN and it was the inaugural A350 flight.
DTW>ICN Started Nov 18 2017 (from B744). First flight was flown by N501DN.
DTW>PEK Started Jan 17 2018 (from A332). First flight was flown by N503DN.
DTW>AMS (Alternating DL132/133 and DL134/135) Started March 31 2018 (from A332/333). First flight was flown by N502DN.
DTW>PVG Started April 19 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N508DN.
ATL>ICN Started March 24 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N504DN.
LAX>PVG Started July 2 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N504DN.
SEA>NRT Started March 1 2019 (from B767/A333). First flight was flown by N502DN.

Press Releases Regarding A350 Routes:
http://news.delta.com/delta-s-new-a3...eon-march-2018
http://news.delta.com/delta-expands-...rope-and-china

A350-900: 19/35 delivered (19 in service, 0 in induction).
3501 N501DN Delivered TLS>ATL Aug 5 2017. Entered service Oct 31 2017. Flew the first A350 flight DTW>ICN Nov 18 2017. C+ installed at MSP Jan 10-Feb 2 2021.
3502 N502DN Delivered TLS>ATL Sept 1 2017. Entered service and flew the inaugural A350 flight DTW>NRT Oct 30 2017. C+ installed at MSP Feb 17-March 1 2021.
3503 N503DN Delivered TLS>MSP Nov 1 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Nov 18 2017. Flew the first A350 flight DTW>PEK Jan 17 2018. C+ installed at MSP Feb 2-16 2021.
3504 N504DN Delivered TLS>MSP Nov 29 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Dec 18 2017. Flew the first A350 flight ATL>ICN on March 24 2018. Flew the first A350 flight LAX>PVG on July 2 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 1-15 2021.
3505 N505DN Delivered TLS>ATL>MSP Dec 12-13 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Jan 12 2018. C+ installed at MSP Mar 26-Apr 9 2021.
3506 N506DN Delivered TLS>ATL Dec 22 2017. Entered service DTW>ICN Feb 7 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 15-26 2021.
3507 N507DN Delivered TLS>ATL Feb 21 2018. Entered service DTW>NRT March 17 2018. C+ installed at MSP Dec 30 2020-Jan 20 2021.
3508 N508DN Delivered TLS>ATL March 6 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN March 30 2018. C+ installed at MSP Jan 17-31 2021.
3509 N509DN Delivered TLS>ATL April 13 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN May 6 2018. C+ installed at MSP Jan 30-Feb 15 2021.
3510 N510DN Delivered TLS>ATL May 24 2018. Entered service DTW>NRT June 16 2018. C+ installed at MSP Feb 15-March 6 2021.
3511 N511DN Delivered TLS>ATL June 14 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN July 7 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 16-April 16 2021.
3512 N512DN Delivered TLS>ATL Jan 26 2019. Entered service ATL>ICN Feb 14 2019. C+ installed at MSP April 17-22 2021.
3513 N513DZ Delivered TLS>ATL March 1 2019. Entered service DTW>AMS March 21 2019. C+ installed at MSP April 22-25 2021.
Note: all A359s with ship numbers 3514 and higher were or will be delivered with C+ installed.
3514 N514DN Delivered TLS>NRT Sept 16-17 2020. Entered service DTW>CDG Oct 17 2020.
3515 N515DN Delivered TLS>AMS Sept 16 2020. Entered revenue service (cargo) NRT>ATL Nov 5 2020 and revenue passenger service ATL>ICN Nov 6 2020.
3516 N516DN Delivered TLS>NRT Jan 26-27 2022. Entered service MSP>DTW Feb 24 2022.
3517 N517DZ Delivered TLS>NGO Feb 1-2 2022…then ferried NGO>NRT for induction Feb 12 2022. Entered service DTW>AMS March 7 2022.
3518 N518DZ Delivered TLS>NRT Nov 22-23 2022. Entered service DTW>HND Dec 18 2022.
3519 N519DN Delivered TLS>NRT Dec 16-17 2022. Entered service MSP>PHX Jan 9 2023.
MSN 654 3520 N520DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN 661 3521 N521DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3522 N522DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3523 N523DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3524 N524DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3525 N525DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3526 N526DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3527 N527DN...Delivery scheduled 2025.
MSN xxx 3528 N528DN...Delivery scheduled 2025.

Upcoming deliveries/orders as of 12/31/22:
2023 0
2024 7
2025 6
2026 & later 3
Total 16

The 9 ex-LATAM frames are due to be refurbished starting February 2022…config of the 3-class cabin is D1/30…C+/63…MC/246 for a total of 339 seats. (7 of 9 completed…2 in induction)

MSN 024...3568...N568DZ...ex PR-XTA...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN May 5-8 2023 for induction.
MSN 027...3569...N569DZ...ex PR-XTB...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN April 13-15 2023 for induction.
MSN 048...3570...N570DZ...ex A7-AMC/PR-XTE...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Feb 24-26 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL May 17 2023...entered service ATL-CDG May 27 2023.
MSN 064...3571...N571DZ... ex A7-AMB/PR-XTF...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Jan 12-14 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL April 4 2023...entered service ATL-AMS April 15 2023.
MSN 200...3572...N572DZ...ex PR-XTH...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Nov 9-11 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL Jan 20 2023…entered service ATL-GTB Feb 11 2023.
MSN 250...3573...N573DZ...ex PR-XTI…ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Sept 27-29 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL Dec 7 2022...entered service DTW-HNL Jan 1 2023.
MSN 265...3574...N574DZ...ex A7-AQA/PR-XTJ...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN June 2-5 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>SEA>MSP Aug 19 2022...entered service ATL-SEA Sept 9 2022.
MSN 282...3575...N575DZ...ex A7-AQB/PR-XTK...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Feb 11-13 2022 for induction…induction completed & ferried SIN>MSP June 1 2022…entered service ATL-DTW June 13 2022.
MSN 313...3576...N576DZ...ex A7-AQC/PR-XTL...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN March 10-12 2022 for induction…induction completed & ferried SIN>MSP July 18 2022…entered service ATL-SEA Aug 2 2022.

Best Seats, Amenities, & Experiences on Delta's A350

Reply Subscribe

Thread Tools

Search this Thread

Jan 30, 17, 5:35 pm

#31

jdrtravel

Join Date: Mar 2010

Programs: DL PM, Bonvoy Gold

Posts: 8,348

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLATL777

Yeah it honestly looks like a glorified 767 seat with a 5 inch plastic partition that can be opened or closed. Nothing like a Suite.:

I don't agree. I think the privacy will be a big upgrade, and I also think the seat looks more spacious and comfortable, and certainly has more storage:

Attached Images

Jan 30, 17, 5:55 pm

#32

FBplatinum

Join Date: Mar 2012

Location: Canada

Programs: FB Platinum, SM Diamond

Posts: 645

Quote:

Originally Posted by BusTrav8yrs

you are speculating on what you read into that statement. There is no language specific to your paranoia. If it had said On Delta Premium Select-equipped aircraft Global Upgrade Certificates can ONLY be upgraded to Delta One from Premium Select then I would agree with you.

#1 - I will agree with you if it say:
a) Diamond Medallion Members will be eligible to use Global Upgrade Certificates to upgrade from economy to Delta Premium Select OR Delta one,
b) On Delta Premium Select-equipped aircraft, Global Upgrade Certificates can still be used to upgrade from economy to Delta One.

#2 - You must admit the "words" use by Delta is not clear (or can be more clear).

#3 - You did not need to accuse people of "paranoia" to value your opinion, this way to express yourself only show you did not have enough valid argument (and use only by "pass/old" generation).

Jan 30, 17, 5:57 pm

#33

FlyerWx

Join Date: Sep 2016

Location: LAX/BUR, RDU

Programs: DL SM, AAdvantage, SPG

Posts: 1,351

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdrtravel

I don't agree. I think the privacy will be a big upgrade, and I also think the seat looks more spacious and comfortable, and certainly has more storage

+1 I think the 767 product feels like a bit like a coffin, while at least the designs for the A350 show more space.

Jan 30, 17, 6:07 pm

#34

flyerCO

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Sep 2003

Location: San Antonio

Programs: DL DM, Former AA EXP now AY Plat, AC 75K, NW Plat, Former CO Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium

Posts: 25,704

Quote:

Originally Posted by FBplatinum

The problem is that the wording is clear, and Delta itself has been clear. Instead you keep replying othereise, including quoting DL in one, the quote which specifically disproves your statement.

Jan 30, 17, 6:09 pm

#35

flyerCO

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Sep 2003

Location: San Antonio

Programs: DL DM, Former AA EXP now AY Plat, AC 75K, NW Plat, Former CO Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium

Posts: 25,704

BTW There's already a thread (lengthy) all about PS.

Jan 30, 17, 6:27 pm

#36

Zorak

Moderator: Hyatt; FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Jun 2015

Location: WAS

Programs: :rolleyes:, DL DM, Mlife Plat, Caesars Diam, Marriott Tit, UA Plat, Hyatt Glob, invol FT beta tester

Posts: 17,564

Quote:

Originally Posted by FBplatinum

https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...tificates.html

at the bottom, click to open the section "GLOBAL UPGRADE CERTIFICATES REDEMPTION ON DELTA"

Quote:

Certificates are flexible — they can be used to upgrade directly from Main Cabin to either Delta Comfort+, First Class, Delta Premium Select or Delta One. Or they can be used to upgrade from Delta Comfort+ to either First Class, Delta Premium Select or Delta One. Or they can be used to upgrade from Delta Premium Select to Delta One.

Jan 30, 17, 7:23 pm

#37

Longboater

Join Date: Dec 2014

Location: Alexandria, Longboat Key

Programs: Amtrak SE, United 1K, Wyndham PLAT, AA Gold, Marriott Gold, Choice PLAT, Avis President's Club

Posts: 2,088

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyerWx

+1 I think the 767 product feels like a bit like a coffin, while at least the designs for the A350 show more space.

The A350 product is a heavily modified version of the Thompson Vantage XL, which is designed for A330/787/777/A350s in a 1-2-1 layout, making the seat about four or five inches WIDER than the 767 product. If Delta used the 767 product on the A350, it would end up being a configuration of rotating 2-2-1 and 1-2-2 per row. To understand how different the products will be, I attached the Layout plans given by Thompson Aero. They clearly show a significant difference between the narrow 1-2-1 on the 767 and the 1-2-1 on the A350/777. QF has been using a version of the Thompson Vantage XL seat on their narrower A330s for the past couple of years and have received great reviews as due to the wideness of the seat. The Delta D1 seat should be an additional 1-2 inches wider than the QF product, in addition to the door.

Thompson Aero LOPAS

Jan 30, 17, 7:28 pm

#38

hard8

Suspended

Join Date: Jul 2015

Location: PNS

Programs: Delta Platinum

Posts: 72

Will the new Italian designed serviceware be rolled out at the same time as the A350 or on a separate timeline?

Jan 30, 17, 8:33 pm

#39

Fly_Delta_Jets

Join Date: Sep 2011

Location: Atlanta, GA (KATL)

Programs: Delta SkyMiles KM, Sky Club/Priority Pass, SPG Gold, HHonors Gold

Posts: 456

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard8

Will the new Italian designed serviceware be rolled out at the same time as the A350 or on a separate timeline?

That should start rolling out in April of this year. I'd keep an eye out for additional soft product enhancements being announced along with the Alessi serviceware.

Jan 31, 17, 6:46 am

#40

DLATL777

Join Date: Feb 2008

Location: Auckland, NZ/New York, NY/ATL

Programs: DL DM MM, BIS 2.2MM, EK Gold, SQ Gold, Marriott Gold, HH Gold,

Posts: 4,980

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdrtravel

I don't agree. I think the privacy will be a big upgrade, and I also think the seat looks more spacious and comfortable, and certainly has more storage:

Well, first off your photos are comparing apples and oranges. You are showing a focus of the middle two seats vs a solo seat. Secondly, your 2nd is not a photo at all but a glorified 2D rendering. Third, if you simply take away the partition with a small plastic half door, I see the similarity I pointed out. It as if they took the seat off the 767, the partition off the A330, and invested in a plastic thin door. It looks nothing like a true "Suite" and I think its hilarious to try and market with likes of true superior products.

I am not arguing that there will not be increased privacy, there will be, but I find it awful to refer to your product as a "Suite" simply because you want to.

Jan 31, 17, 7:17 am

#41

Longboater

Join Date: Dec 2014

Location: Alexandria, Longboat Key

Programs: Amtrak SE, United 1K, Wyndham PLAT, AA Gold, Marriott Gold, Choice PLAT, Avis President's Club

Posts: 2,088

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLATL777

Comparing the 767 Thompson Vantage product to the A350/777 Thompson Vantage XL is comparing apples to oranges. The 767 Vantage seat is 19.6-21.3 inches wide with rather limited storage space whereas the A350/777 Vantage XL seat is 24-25 inches wide with added storage space. The added door is Delta calling this a Suite. Is it comparable to International F? No, not even close. But its damn good as International J. The much larger Thompson Vantage XL seat has received much better reviews than the narrow standard Vantage seat. Again, if the 767 Thompson Vantage seat were to be installed on the A350/777, it would be in a rotating 2-2-1 and 1-2-2 configuration due to the width of the aircraft whereas it could only fit 1-2-1 on the 767.

Jan 31, 17, 8:51 am

#42

jdrtravel

Join Date: Mar 2010

Programs: DL PM, Bonvoy Gold

Posts: 8,348

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longboater

+1.

Jan 31, 17, 5:43 pm

#43

DLATL777

Join Date: Feb 2008

Location: Auckland, NZ/New York, NY/ATL

Programs: DL DM MM, BIS 2.2MM, EK Gold, SQ Gold, Marriott Gold, HH Gold,

Posts: 4,980

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longboater

Is it comparable to International F? No, not even close.

And this is my issue;calling it a Suite. You run with your tail between your legs away from the "evil" ME carriers offering true F suites then bring out your own that can never compare.

Again, again, I am not arguing increased privacy, I am arguing labeling. I do not agree calling this a "Suite" to entice and excite the (mostly ignorant) to flying US public into thinking you are offering some incredibly ground breaking suite product (though none on this board

Jan 31, 17, 7:14 pm

#44

pbarnette

Suspended

Join Date: Sep 2005

Location: SEA

Programs: UA Silver, BA Gold, DL Gold

Posts: 9,779

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLATL777

To put it bluntly, I think you are picking flies out of *********. There is no definition of what constitutes a suite, F or not. BA calls their F seat a suite. B6 calls the seats with doors suites too. UA calls the new Polaris J seat a "suite-like space". It is a marketing term, nothing more. And, frankly, I think most people buying it are savvy enough to know that, FT or not.