Jun 20, 2017, 7:21 pm
Last edit by: N515CR
Status as of 23 Apr 2024
Initial flights:
DTW>NRT effective Oct 30 2017 (from B744). Inaugural A350 flight, flown by N502DN.
DTW>ICN effective Nov 18 2017 (in conjunction with the B744). First flight flown by N501DN. Transitioned to the A350 Dec 18 2017.
DTW>PEK effective Jan 17 2018 (in conjunction with the A332). First flight flown by N503DN. Transitioned to the A350 Feb 13 2018.
DTW>AMS effective March 31 2018 (from A332/333) - DL132/133 only.
DTW>PVG effective April 19 2018 (from B744/B777).
ATL>ICN effective March 24 2018 (from B777).
LAX>PVG effective July 2 2018 (alternated with the B777 until July 18 2018).
Press Releases Regarding A350 Routes
http://news.delta.com/delta-s-new-a3...eon-march-2018
http://news.delta.com/delta-expands-...rope-and-china
Related threads:
2017 The Year of the A350
Are there enough toilets on the new A350?
UA 77W Polaris vs DL A350 DeltaOne in Business
All cabins feature wifi, USB power, and AVOD at every seat.
Delta One (business/first seats, rows 1-9)
* Features 32 of the new Delta One Suites with lie-flat seats, 22-24" width, and 76-81" length in a 1-2-1 configuration.
* A full-height door at every suite and sliding privacy dividers between center suites
* In-suite, customizable ambient lighting; dedicated stowage compartments for shoes, headphones and laptops; and memory foam-enhanced comfort cushion
* An 18-inch, high resolution in-flight entertainment monitor and 110-volt power
* Delta's webpage on the new suites: https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...ess-class.html
Delta Premium Select (premium economy seats, rows 20-25)
* Has 48 seats with 18.5" width, 38" pitch, up to 7" of recline, and adjustable leg rests in a 2-4-2 configuration
* Up to a 13.3-inch, high resolution in-flight entertainment screen and 110-volt power
* Delta's webpage on these new seats: https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...m-economy.html
Main Cabin (economy seats, rows 30-55)
* Has 226 seats with 18" width and 31-32" pitch in a 3-3-3 configuration.
* Preferred seats are window and aisle seats in rows 30-33, 41, and all seats in exit row 40
* Does not have 110-volt power
Config of the 3-class cabin was…D1/32 seats (rows 1-9)…PS/48 seats (rows 20-25)...MC/226 seats (rows 30-55)…for a total 306 seats. This config was on the first 13 frames (3501-3513) delivered and then subsequently they were updated to the 4-class cabin as detailed below.
Config of the 4-class cabin is...D1/32 seats (rows 1-9)...PS/48 seats (rows 20-25)…C +/36 seats (rows 30-33)…MC/190 seats (rows 34-55)… for a total of 306 seats. Aircraft designation is 359.
Config of the 3-class cabin (ex-LATAM) is…D1/20 seats (rows 1-5)…C +/63 seats (rows 16-22)…MC/246 seats (rows 23-51)…for an total of 339 seats. Aircraft designation is 35L.
New config of the 4-class cabin starting 06/01/24 is…D1/40 seats (rows 1-11)…PS/40 seats (rows 20-24)…C +/36 seats (rows 30-33)…MC/159 seats (rows 34-51) for a total of 275 seats. Aircraft designation is 35H.
Seat map (link to Delta webpage)
359 (4 class) cabin tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ3D-xZGfAs
35L (ex-Latam) cabin tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgO-Os_rLCk
A350 Current Routes:
DTW>NRT Started Oct 30 2017 (from B744). First flight was flown by N502DN and it was the inaugural A350 flight.
DTW>ICN Started Nov 18 2017 (from B744). First flight was flown by N501DN.
DTW>PEK Started Jan 17 2018 (from A332). First flight was flown by N503DN.
DTW>AMS (Alternating DL132/133 and DL134/135) Started March 31 2018 (from A332/333). First flight was flown by N502DN.
DTW>PVG Started April 19 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N508DN.
ATL>ICN Started March 24 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N504DN.
LAX>PVG Started July 2 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N504DN.
SEA>NRT Started March 1 2019 (from B767/A333). First flight was flown by N502DN.
Press Releases Regarding A350 Routes:
http://news.delta.com/delta-s-new-a3...eon-march-2018
http://news.delta.com/delta-expands-...rope-and-china
A350-900: 20/35 delivered (19 in service, 1 in induction).
3501 N501DN Delivered TLS>ATL Aug 5 2017. Entered service Oct 31 2017. Flew the first A350 flight DTW>ICN Nov 18 2017. C+ installed at MSP Jan 10-Feb 2 2021.
3502 N502DN Delivered TLS>ATL Sept 1 2017. Entered service and flew the inaugural A350 flight DTW>NRT Oct 30 2017. C+ installed at MSP Feb 17-March 1 2021.
3503 N503DN Delivered TLS>MSP Nov 1 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Nov 18 2017. Flew the first A350 flight DTW>PEK Jan 17 2018. C+ installed at MSP Feb 2-16 2021.
3504 N504DN Delivered TLS>MSP Nov 29 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Dec 18 2017. Flew the first A350 flight ATL>ICN on March 24 2018. Flew the first A350 flight LAX>PVG on July 2 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 1-15 2021.
3505 N505DN Delivered TLS>ATL>MSP Dec 12-13 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Jan 12 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 26-April 9 2021.
3506 N506DN Delivered TLS>ATL Dec 22 2017. Entered service DTW>ICN Feb 7 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 15-26 2021.
3507 N507DN Delivered TLS>ATL Feb 21 2018. Entered service DTW>NRT March 17 2018. C+ installed at MSP Dec 30 2020-Jan 20 2021.
3508 N508DN Delivered TLS>ATL March 6 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN March 30 2018. C+ installed at MSP Jan 17-31 2021.
3509 N509DN Delivered TLS>ATL April 13 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN May 6 2018. C+ installed at MSP Jan 30-Feb 15 2021.
3510 N510DN Delivered TLS>ATL May 24 2018. Entered service DTW>NRT June 16 2018. C+ installed at MSP Feb 15-March 6 2021.
3511 N511DN Delivered TLS>ATL June 14 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN July 7 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 16-April 16 2021.
3512 N512DN Delivered TLS>ATL Jan 26 2019. Entered service ATL>ICN Feb 14 2019. C+ installed at MSP April 17-22 2021.
3513 N513DZ Delivered TLS>ATL March 1 2019. Entered service DTW>AMS March 21 2019. C+ installed at MSP April 22-25 2021.
Note: all A359s with ship numbers 3514 and higher were or will be delivered with C+ installed.
3514 N514DN Delivered TLS>NRT Sept 16-17 2020. Entered service DTW>CDG Oct 17 2020.
3515 N515DN Delivered TLS>AMS Sept 16 2020. Entered revenue service (cargo) NRT>ATL Nov 5 2020 and revenue passenger service ATL>ICN Nov 6 2020.
3516 N516DN Delivered TLS>NRT Jan 26-27 2022. Entered service MSP>DTW Feb 24 2022.
3517 N517DZ Delivered TLS>NGO Feb 1-2 2022…ferried NGO>NRT for induction Feb 12 2022. Entered service DTW>AMS March 7 2022.
3518 N518DZ Delivered TLS>NRT Nov 22-23 2022. Entered service DTW>HND Dec 18 2022.
3519 N519DN Delivered TLS>NRT Dec 16-17 2022. Entered service MSP>PHX Jan 9 2023. ViaSat IFC (prototype).
3520 N520DN Delivered TLS>NRT April 4-5 2023. First aircraft delivered in the latest 35H config...exited NRT-MSP Apr 18 2024. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 661 3521 N521DN...third test flight April 23 2024…special “Team USA” livery…delivery spring 2024.
MSN 673 3522 N522DZ...taxi check April 5 2024...special “2028 LA Olympic Games livery”...delivery spring 2024.
MSN 677 3523 N523DN...spotted in full livery w/o engines April 10 2024…delivery spring 2024.
MSN 680 3524 N524DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3525 N525DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3526 N526DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3527 N527DN...Delivery scheduled 2025.
MSN xxx 3528 N528DN...Delivery scheduled 2025.
Upcoming deliveries/orders as of 12/31/23:
2024 7
2025 6
2026 & later 3
Total 16
A350-900 (35L): 9
MSN 024...3568...N568DZ...ex PR-XTA...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN May 5-8 2023 for induction. Induction completed & ferried SIN>SEA>ATL Aug 19-20 2023….entered service ATL>MXP Sept 3 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 027...3569...N569DZ...ex PR-XTB...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN April 13-15 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>LAX>ATL July 7 2023...entered service ATL>BCN July 15 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 048...3570...N570DZ...ex A7-AMC/PR-XTE...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Feb 24-26 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL May 17 2023...entered service ATL>CDG May 27 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 064...3571...N571DZ... ex A7-AMB/PR-XTF...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Jan 12-14 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL April 4 2023...entered service ATL>AMS April 15 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 200...3572...N572DZ...ex PR-XTH...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Nov 9-11 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL Jan 20 2023…entered service ATL>GTB Feb 11 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 250...3573...N573DZ...ex PR-XTI…ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Sept 27-29 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL Dec 7 2022...entered service DTW>HNL Jan 1 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 265...3574...N574DZ...ex A7-AQA/PR-XTJ...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN June 2-5 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>SEA>MSP Aug 19 2022...entered service ATL>SEA Sept 9 2022. 2Ku WiFi.
MSN 282...3575...N575DZ...ex A7-AQB/PR-XTK...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Feb 11-13 2022 for induction…induction completed & ferried SIN>MSP June 1 2022…entered service ATL>DTW June 13 2022. 2Ku WiFi.
MSN 313...3576...N576DZ...ex A7-AQC/PR-XTL...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN March 10-12 2022 for induction…induction completed & ferried SIN>MSP July 18 2022…entered service ATL>SEA Aug 2 2022. 2Ku WiFi.
*The 9 ex-LATAM frames were refurbished between February 2022 and September 2023…config of the 3-class cabin is D1/30…C+/63…MC/246 for a total of 339 seats.
Initial flights:
DTW>NRT effective Oct 30 2017 (from B744). Inaugural A350 flight, flown by N502DN.
DTW>ICN effective Nov 18 2017 (in conjunction with the B744). First flight flown by N501DN. Transitioned to the A350 Dec 18 2017.
DTW>PEK effective Jan 17 2018 (in conjunction with the A332). First flight flown by N503DN. Transitioned to the A350 Feb 13 2018.
DTW>AMS effective March 31 2018 (from A332/333) - DL132/133 only.
DTW>PVG effective April 19 2018 (from B744/B777).
ATL>ICN effective March 24 2018 (from B777).
LAX>PVG effective July 2 2018 (alternated with the B777 until July 18 2018).
Press Releases Regarding A350 Routes
http://news.delta.com/delta-s-new-a3...eon-march-2018
http://news.delta.com/delta-expands-...rope-and-china
Related threads:
2017 The Year of the A350
Are there enough toilets on the new A350?
UA 77W Polaris vs DL A350 DeltaOne in Business
All cabins feature wifi, USB power, and AVOD at every seat.
Delta One (business/first seats, rows 1-9)
* Features 32 of the new Delta One Suites with lie-flat seats, 22-24" width, and 76-81" length in a 1-2-1 configuration.
* A full-height door at every suite and sliding privacy dividers between center suites
* In-suite, customizable ambient lighting; dedicated stowage compartments for shoes, headphones and laptops; and memory foam-enhanced comfort cushion
* An 18-inch, high resolution in-flight entertainment monitor and 110-volt power
* Delta's webpage on the new suites: https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...ess-class.html
Delta Premium Select (premium economy seats, rows 20-25)
* Has 48 seats with 18.5" width, 38" pitch, up to 7" of recline, and adjustable leg rests in a 2-4-2 configuration
* Up to a 13.3-inch, high resolution in-flight entertainment screen and 110-volt power
* Delta's webpage on these new seats: https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...m-economy.html
Main Cabin (economy seats, rows 30-55)
* Has 226 seats with 18" width and 31-32" pitch in a 3-3-3 configuration.
* Preferred seats are window and aisle seats in rows 30-33, 41, and all seats in exit row 40
* Does not have 110-volt power
Config of the 3-class cabin was…D1/32 seats (rows 1-9)…PS/48 seats (rows 20-25)...MC/226 seats (rows 30-55)…for a total 306 seats. This config was on the first 13 frames (3501-3513) delivered and then subsequently they were updated to the 4-class cabin as detailed below.
Config of the 4-class cabin is...D1/32 seats (rows 1-9)...PS/48 seats (rows 20-25)…C +/36 seats (rows 30-33)…MC/190 seats (rows 34-55)… for a total of 306 seats. Aircraft designation is 359.
Config of the 3-class cabin (ex-LATAM) is…D1/20 seats (rows 1-5)…C +/63 seats (rows 16-22)…MC/246 seats (rows 23-51)…for an total of 339 seats. Aircraft designation is 35L.
New config of the 4-class cabin starting 06/01/24 is…D1/40 seats (rows 1-11)…PS/40 seats (rows 20-24)…C +/36 seats (rows 30-33)…MC/159 seats (rows 34-51) for a total of 275 seats. Aircraft designation is 35H.
Seat map (link to Delta webpage)
359 (4 class) cabin tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ3D-xZGfAs
35L (ex-Latam) cabin tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgO-Os_rLCk
A350 Current Routes:
DTW>NRT Started Oct 30 2017 (from B744). First flight was flown by N502DN and it was the inaugural A350 flight.
DTW>ICN Started Nov 18 2017 (from B744). First flight was flown by N501DN.
DTW>PEK Started Jan 17 2018 (from A332). First flight was flown by N503DN.
DTW>AMS (Alternating DL132/133 and DL134/135) Started March 31 2018 (from A332/333). First flight was flown by N502DN.
DTW>PVG Started April 19 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N508DN.
ATL>ICN Started March 24 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N504DN.
LAX>PVG Started July 2 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N504DN.
SEA>NRT Started March 1 2019 (from B767/A333). First flight was flown by N502DN.
Press Releases Regarding A350 Routes:
http://news.delta.com/delta-s-new-a3...eon-march-2018
http://news.delta.com/delta-expands-...rope-and-china
A350-900: 20/35 delivered (19 in service, 1 in induction).
3501 N501DN Delivered TLS>ATL Aug 5 2017. Entered service Oct 31 2017. Flew the first A350 flight DTW>ICN Nov 18 2017. C+ installed at MSP Jan 10-Feb 2 2021.
3502 N502DN Delivered TLS>ATL Sept 1 2017. Entered service and flew the inaugural A350 flight DTW>NRT Oct 30 2017. C+ installed at MSP Feb 17-March 1 2021.
3503 N503DN Delivered TLS>MSP Nov 1 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Nov 18 2017. Flew the first A350 flight DTW>PEK Jan 17 2018. C+ installed at MSP Feb 2-16 2021.
3504 N504DN Delivered TLS>MSP Nov 29 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Dec 18 2017. Flew the first A350 flight ATL>ICN on March 24 2018. Flew the first A350 flight LAX>PVG on July 2 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 1-15 2021.
3505 N505DN Delivered TLS>ATL>MSP Dec 12-13 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Jan 12 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 26-April 9 2021.
3506 N506DN Delivered TLS>ATL Dec 22 2017. Entered service DTW>ICN Feb 7 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 15-26 2021.
3507 N507DN Delivered TLS>ATL Feb 21 2018. Entered service DTW>NRT March 17 2018. C+ installed at MSP Dec 30 2020-Jan 20 2021.
3508 N508DN Delivered TLS>ATL March 6 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN March 30 2018. C+ installed at MSP Jan 17-31 2021.
3509 N509DN Delivered TLS>ATL April 13 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN May 6 2018. C+ installed at MSP Jan 30-Feb 15 2021.
3510 N510DN Delivered TLS>ATL May 24 2018. Entered service DTW>NRT June 16 2018. C+ installed at MSP Feb 15-March 6 2021.
3511 N511DN Delivered TLS>ATL June 14 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN July 7 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 16-April 16 2021.
3512 N512DN Delivered TLS>ATL Jan 26 2019. Entered service ATL>ICN Feb 14 2019. C+ installed at MSP April 17-22 2021.
3513 N513DZ Delivered TLS>ATL March 1 2019. Entered service DTW>AMS March 21 2019. C+ installed at MSP April 22-25 2021.
Note: all A359s with ship numbers 3514 and higher were or will be delivered with C+ installed.
3514 N514DN Delivered TLS>NRT Sept 16-17 2020. Entered service DTW>CDG Oct 17 2020.
3515 N515DN Delivered TLS>AMS Sept 16 2020. Entered revenue service (cargo) NRT>ATL Nov 5 2020 and revenue passenger service ATL>ICN Nov 6 2020.
3516 N516DN Delivered TLS>NRT Jan 26-27 2022. Entered service MSP>DTW Feb 24 2022.
3517 N517DZ Delivered TLS>NGO Feb 1-2 2022…ferried NGO>NRT for induction Feb 12 2022. Entered service DTW>AMS March 7 2022.
3518 N518DZ Delivered TLS>NRT Nov 22-23 2022. Entered service DTW>HND Dec 18 2022.
3519 N519DN Delivered TLS>NRT Dec 16-17 2022. Entered service MSP>PHX Jan 9 2023. ViaSat IFC (prototype).
3520 N520DN Delivered TLS>NRT April 4-5 2023. First aircraft delivered in the latest 35H config...exited NRT-MSP Apr 18 2024. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 661 3521 N521DN...third test flight April 23 2024…special “Team USA” livery…delivery spring 2024.
MSN 673 3522 N522DZ...taxi check April 5 2024...special “2028 LA Olympic Games livery”...delivery spring 2024.
MSN 677 3523 N523DN...spotted in full livery w/o engines April 10 2024…delivery spring 2024.
MSN 680 3524 N524DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3525 N525DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3526 N526DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3527 N527DN...Delivery scheduled 2025.
MSN xxx 3528 N528DN...Delivery scheduled 2025.
Upcoming deliveries/orders as of 12/31/23:
2024 7
2025 6
2026 & later 3
Total 16
A350-900 (35L): 9
MSN 024...3568...N568DZ...ex PR-XTA...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN May 5-8 2023 for induction. Induction completed & ferried SIN>SEA>ATL Aug 19-20 2023….entered service ATL>MXP Sept 3 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 027...3569...N569DZ...ex PR-XTB...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN April 13-15 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>LAX>ATL July 7 2023...entered service ATL>BCN July 15 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 048...3570...N570DZ...ex A7-AMC/PR-XTE...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Feb 24-26 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL May 17 2023...entered service ATL>CDG May 27 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 064...3571...N571DZ... ex A7-AMB/PR-XTF...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Jan 12-14 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL April 4 2023...entered service ATL>AMS April 15 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 200...3572...N572DZ...ex PR-XTH...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Nov 9-11 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL Jan 20 2023…entered service ATL>GTB Feb 11 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 250...3573...N573DZ...ex PR-XTI…ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Sept 27-29 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL Dec 7 2022...entered service DTW>HNL Jan 1 2023. ViaSat IFC.
MSN 265...3574...N574DZ...ex A7-AQA/PR-XTJ...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN June 2-5 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>SEA>MSP Aug 19 2022...entered service ATL>SEA Sept 9 2022. 2Ku WiFi.
MSN 282...3575...N575DZ...ex A7-AQB/PR-XTK...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Feb 11-13 2022 for induction…induction completed & ferried SIN>MSP June 1 2022…entered service ATL>DTW June 13 2022. 2Ku WiFi.
MSN 313...3576...N576DZ...ex A7-AQC/PR-XTL...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN March 10-12 2022 for induction…induction completed & ferried SIN>MSP July 18 2022…entered service ATL>SEA Aug 2 2022. 2Ku WiFi.
*The 9 ex-LATAM frames were refurbished between February 2022 and September 2023…config of the 3-class cabin is D1/30…C+/63…MC/246 for a total of 339 seats.
Best Seats, Amenities, & Experiences on Delta's A350
Jun 17, 2017, 6:01 pm
#301
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SJC/YUL
Programs: DL PM, Marriott Gold
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I don't have any reason to go to Asia this winter. But when the domestic test flights get added to the calendar, I'll go out of my way to fly in a suite.
Jun 17, 2017, 6:17 pm
#302
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Washington, DC, Chapel Hill, NC (RDU)
Programs: DL Plat (won't hit DM again) 2MM (2.5), HH Gold, PC Gold, Hyatt Plat
Posts: 5,626
3 and 4 years ago I booked several east coast to Asia flights via CDG on AF in their PE (which was not the post comfortable PE back then). If you could book into A class, you could do east coast US-CDG-Asia-CDG-another European city stopover-CDG-east coast US for $2200 to $2700. I did HKG and CPH, PNH and TXL, and SIN and KBP, and ICN and CDG, as I recall.
Jun 17, 2017, 6:37 pm
#303
Used to be PWMRamper
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Posts: 999
Glad the first flight ended up being the A350.
Jun 17, 2017, 6:49 pm
#304
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Jun 17, 2017, 8:34 pm
#305
Join Date: May 2007
Location: AUS
Programs: Delta Skymiles Diamond, Hilton HHonors Silver
Posts: 20
I've booked DL275 DTW-NRT on Oct 30 in PS and have the same 99k SkyMiles RT charge in PS. We have a connection to AUS in both directions, and the AUS-DTW leg booked in First Class both directions, all R inventory (R/R/R/R).
Jun 17, 2017, 9:10 pm
#306
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Location: L.A.
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As soon as i can get a flight with with GUC, ill go for it..
Jun 17, 2017, 9:10 pm
#307
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I'm betting its an error with PS getting FC on domestic legs. Its probably seeing R on the domestic leg and thinking it should book into R since R is PS on the A350.
Jun 18, 2017, 12:22 am
#308
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: DL PM, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 8,414
One reason that I could imagine it not being a mistake is that it could really help them sell more PS. The availability is going to be so limited, and if they can put people in F on connections, it will open up more markets to PS (which is essentially just domestic F on international flights).
If this is indeed not a mistake, I'll be very curious to see what they do with the transcon routes. I'm fairly certain PS won't book into D1 on the transcon, but what about someone who is going JFK-SYD with a connection at LAX. Would they have to do something like JFK-DTW-LAX-SYD in order to be in F & PS the whole way?
Or maybe the long term game is to offer PS on the transcons?
Jun 18, 2017, 5:21 am
#309
Join Date: Dec 2008
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If this is indeed not a mistake, I'll be very curious to see what they do with the transcon routes. I'm fairly certain PS won't book into D1 on the transcon, but what about someone who is going JFK-SYD with a connection at LAX. Would they have to do something like JFK-DTW-LAX-SYD in order to be in F & PS the whole way?
Contrast with (eg) RDU-JFK-LHR which offers Y/Y, F/W, and F/J. LAX-JFK-LHR OTOH offers Y/Y, Y+/W, J/J. So perhaps it's partner and route dependent.
Jun 18, 2017, 10:06 am
#310
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: DL PM, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 8,414
Good call, I just tried SAN-LHR and when you connect to VS in either LAX or in ATL you are booked in to F for the DL domestic flight.
And at least in my search it was MUCH more expensive to fly through ATL in PE than LAX, but the Y and J prices were comparable for both routes.
However, if you fly LAX-JFK-LHR, DL on LAX-JFK and VS on JFK-LHR, you are in C+ for the domestic transcon. SO, if this is not a mistake, the moral of the story is to avoid flying on the transcon routes when connecting to Premium Y on DL or VS. Not on VA.
probably belongs in another thread: While doing this I noticed: I can't see the fare classes anymore when searching, just the cabins. (It says "first class" but not A or F, etc). When you actually select a flight, it shows at the end.
And at least in my search it was MUCH more expensive to fly through ATL in PE than LAX, but the Y and J prices were comparable for both routes.
However, if you fly LAX-JFK-LHR, DL on LAX-JFK and VS on JFK-LHR, you are in C+ for the domestic transcon. SO, if this is not a mistake, the moral of the story is to avoid flying on the transcon routes when connecting to Premium Y on DL or VS. Not on VA.
probably belongs in another thread: While doing this I noticed: I can't see the fare classes anymore when searching, just the cabins. (It says "first class" but not A or F, etc). When you actually select a flight, it shows at the end.
Last edited by jdrtravel; Jun 18, 2017 at 10:12 am
Jun 18, 2017, 7:03 pm
#311
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: DL PM, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 8,414
The link to the A350 intro page on delta.com is now live
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...350-cabin.html
Seat map here:
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...0.html#seatmap
Of note:
-100v power only in D1 and PE. Just USB in the rest, which seems strange.
-DL lists pitch in Y at 31"-32". Not great, and not clear which seats have 32".
- As we were aware, PE seat width is only .5 inch greater than Y. Again, we knew this, but it's really not great, though I don't think this includes extra armrest space between seats.
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...350-cabin.html
Seat map here:
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...0.html#seatmap
Of note:
-100v power only in D1 and PE. Just USB in the rest, which seems strange.
-DL lists pitch in Y at 31"-32". Not great, and not clear which seats have 32".
- As we were aware, PE seat width is only .5 inch greater than Y. Again, we knew this, but it's really not great, though I don't think this includes extra armrest space between seats.
Jun 18, 2017, 7:23 pm
#312
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: LON, PDX
Programs: DL PM, AS MVP 75K, HH/SPG/MR Gold, Amex Plat, PRG, CSR
Posts: 2,064
The link to the A350 intro page on delta.com is now live
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...350-cabin.html
Seat map here:
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...0.html#seatmap
Of note:
-100v power only in D1 and PE. Just USB in the rest, which seems strange.
-DL lists pitch in Y at 31"-32". Not great, and not clear which seats have 32".
- As we were aware, PE seat width is only .5 inch greater than Y. Again, we knew this, but it's really not great, though I don't think this includes extra armrest space between seats.
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...350-cabin.html
Seat map here:
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...0.html#seatmap
Of note:
-100v power only in D1 and PE. Just USB in the rest, which seems strange.
-DL lists pitch in Y at 31"-32". Not great, and not clear which seats have 32".
- As we were aware, PE seat width is only .5 inch greater than Y. Again, we knew this, but it's really not great, though I don't think this includes extra armrest space between seats.
The power is a little strange, although I don't think many people can really use a laptop in Y anyway, and most good laptops have 8+ hour batteries these days anyway.
I would also really like to know which Y seats have 31". Hopefully it is just a few rows in back, 32" is not bad with the cradle seats which I, unlike many here, strongly prefer to the old ones.
I think the PE width benefit really does come in the wide and fully separated armrest that gives you a better degree of separation from your seatmate. As a skinny misanthrope I'd rather this than a wider cushion, but don't really care because I don't value PE for what they're selling it for, I'd rather really enjoy J or pocket the Y savings.
Jun 18, 2017, 7:34 pm
#313
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ATL
Programs: DL DM, Hyatt LT DM, Wyndham DM, Hertz PC, HH Gold, SPG Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,038
Would be good info for sure. Maybe it is the 'exit rows' and limited recline seats?
No options to purchase up to PE and D1 on any of the flights. Seems really odd.
No options to purchase up to PE and D1 on any of the flights. Seems really odd.
Jun 18, 2017, 8:53 pm
#315
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Naples Florida and San Diego, California
Programs: Delta Diamond, Starwood Platinum
Posts: 73
Not proud of what I spent but I did book in D1 on the inaugural flight. I tried to book yesterday when I saw it was 160,000 miles [one way] but I was a few miles
short in my account and I was on a plane landing in Atlanta. When I got on the ground it was 240,000 miles.
I finally found a reward flight from Atlanta connecting to Detroit that priced at 200,000 miles. I used cash and points to get it to 185,000 and transferred in some miles form Amex. I paid too much but it should be fun to see the full hard and soft product.
short in my account and I was on a plane landing in Atlanta. When I got on the ground it was 240,000 miles.
I finally found a reward flight from Atlanta connecting to Detroit that priced at 200,000 miles. I used cash and points to get it to 185,000 and transferred in some miles form Amex. I paid too much but it should be fun to see the full hard and soft product.