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Old Jun 20, 17, 7:21 pm
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Initial flights:
DTW>NRT effective Oct 30 2017 (from B744). Inaugural A350 flight, flown by N502DN.
DTW>ICN effective Nov 18 2017 (in conjunction with the B744). First flight flown by N501DN. Transitioned to the A350 Dec 18 2017.
DTW>PEK effective Jan 17 2018 (in conjunction with the A332). First flight flown by N503DN. Transitioned to the A350 Feb 13 2018.
DTW>AMS effective March 31 2018 (from A332/333) - DL132/133 only.
DTW>PVG effective April 19 2018 (from B744/B777).
ATL>ICN effective March 24 2018 (from B777).
LAX>PVG effective July 2 2018 (alternated with the B777 until July 18 2018).

Press Releases Regarding A350 Routes
http://news.delta.com/delta-s-new-a3...eon-march-2018
http://news.delta.com/delta-expands-...rope-and-china

Related threads:
2017 The Year of the A350
Are there enough toilets on the new A350?
UA 77W Polaris vs DL A350 DeltaOne in Business

All cabins feature wifi, USB power, and AVOD at every seat.

Delta One (business/first seats, rows 1-9)
* Features 32 of the new Delta One Suites with lie-flat seats, 22-24" width, and 76-81" length in a 1-2-1 configuration.
* A full-height door at every suite and sliding privacy dividers between center suites
* In-suite, customizable ambient lighting; dedicated stowage compartments for shoes, headphones and laptops; and memory foam-enhanced comfort cushion
* An 18-inch, high resolution in-flight entertainment monitor and 110-volt power
* Delta's webpage on the new suites: https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...ess-class.html

Delta Premium Select (premium economy seats, rows 20-25)
* Has 48 seats with 18.5" width, 38" pitch, up to 7" of recline, and adjustable leg rests in a 2-4-2 configuration
* Up to a 13.3-inch, high resolution in-flight entertainment screen and 110-volt power
* Delta's webpage on these new seats: https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...m-economy.html

Main Cabin (economy seats, rows 30-55)
* Has 226 seats with 18" width and 31-32" pitch in a 3-3-3 configuration.
* Preferred seats are window and aisle seats in rows 30-33, 41, and all seats in exit row 40
* Does not have 110-volt power

Config of the 3-class cabin wasD1/32 seats...PS/48 seats...MC/226 seats for a total 306 seats. This config was on the first 13 frames (3501-3513) delivered and then subsequently they were updated to the 4-class cabin as detailed below.

Config of the 4-class cabin is...D1/32 seats...PS/48 seats...C+/36 seats...MC/190 seats for a total of 306 seats.

Seat map (link to Delta webpage)
359 (4 class) cabin tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ3D-xZGfAs
35L (ex-Latam) cabin tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgO-Os_rLCk

A350 Current Routes:
DTW>NRT Started Oct 30 2017 (from B744). First flight was flown by N502DN and it was the inaugural A350 flight.
DTW>ICN Started Nov 18 2017 (from B744). First flight was flown by N501DN.
DTW>PEK Started Jan 17 2018 (from A332). First flight was flown by N503DN.
DTW>AMS (Alternating DL132/133 and DL134/135) Started March 31 2018 (from A332/333). First flight was flown by N502DN.
DTW>PVG Started April 19 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N508DN.
ATL>ICN Started March 24 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N504DN.
LAX>PVG Started July 2 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N504DN.
SEA>NRT Started March 1 2019 (from B767/A333). First flight was flown by N502DN.

Press Releases Regarding A350 Routes:
http://news.delta.com/delta-s-new-a3...eon-march-2018
http://news.delta.com/delta-expands-...rope-and-china

A350-900: 19/35 delivered (19 in service, 0 in induction).
3501 N501DN Delivered TLS>ATL Aug 5 2017. Entered service Oct 31 2017. Flew the first A350 flight DTW>ICN Nov 18 2017. C+ installed at MSP Jan 10-Feb 2 2021.
3502 N502DN Delivered TLS>ATL Sept 1 2017. Entered service and flew the inaugural A350 flight DTW>NRT Oct 30 2017. C+ installed at MSP Feb 17-March 1 2021.
3503 N503DN Delivered TLS>MSP Nov 1 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Nov 18 2017. Flew the first A350 flight DTW>PEK Jan 17 2018. C+ installed at MSP Feb 2-16 2021.
3504 N504DN Delivered TLS>MSP Nov 29 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Dec 18 2017. Flew the first A350 flight ATL>ICN on March 24 2018. Flew the first A350 flight LAX>PVG on July 2 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 1-15 2021.
3505 N505DN Delivered TLS>ATL>MSP Dec 12-13 2017. Entered service DTW>NRT Jan 12 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 26-April 9 2021.
3506 N506DN Delivered TLS>ATL Dec 22 2017. Entered service DTW>ICN Feb 7 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 15-26 2021.
3507 N507DN Delivered TLS>ATL Feb 21 2018. Entered service DTW>NRT March 17 2018. C+ installed at MSP Dec 30 2020-Jan 20 2021.
3508 N508DN Delivered TLS>ATL March 6 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN March 30 2018. C+ installed at MSP Jan 17-31 2021.
3509 N509DN Delivered TLS>ATL April 13 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN May 6 2018. C+ installed at MSP Jan 30-Feb 15 2021.
3510 N510DN Delivered TLS>ATL May 24 2018. Entered service DTW>NRT June 16 2018. C+ installed at MSP Feb 15-March 6 2021.
3511 N511DN Delivered TLS>ATL June 14 2018. Entered service DTW>ICN July 7 2018. C+ installed at MSP March 16-April 16 2021.
3512 N512DN Delivered TLS>ATL Jan 26 2019. Entered service ATL>ICN Feb 14 2019. C+ installed at MSP April 17-22 2021.
3513 N513DZ Delivered TLS>ATL March 1 2019. Entered service DTW>AMS March 21 2019. C+ installed at MSP April 22-25 2021.
Note: all A359s with ship numbers 3514 and higher were or will be delivered with C+ installed.
3514 N514DN Delivered TLS>NRT Sept 16-17 2020. Entered service DTW>CDG Oct 17 2020.
3515 N515DN Delivered TLS>AMS Sept 16 2020. Entered revenue service (cargo) NRT>ATL Nov 5 2020 and revenue passenger service ATL>ICN Nov 6 2020.
3516 N516DN Delivered TLS>NRT Jan 26-27 2022. Entered service MSP>DTW Feb 24 2022.
3517 N517DZ Delivered TLS>NGO Feb 1-2 2022then ferried NGO>NRT for induction Feb 12 2022. Entered service DTW>AMS March 7 2022.
3518 N518DZ Delivered TLS>NRT Nov 22-23 2022. Entered service DTW>HND Dec 18 2022.
3519 N519DN Delivered TLS>NRT Dec 16-17 2022. Entered service MSP>PHX Jan 9 2023. ViaSat IFC (prototype).
MSN 654 3520 N520DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN 661 3521 N521DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN 673 3522 N522DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN 677 3523 N523DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN 680 3524 N524DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3525 N525DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3526 N526DN...Delivery scheduled 2024.
MSN xxx 3527 N527DN...Delivery scheduled 2025.
MSN xxx 3528 N528DN...Delivery scheduled 2025.

Upcoming deliveries/orders as of 12/31/22:
2023 0
2024 7
2025 6
2026 & later 3
Total 16

A350-900 (35L): Induction complete!
MSN 024...3568...N568DZ...ex PR-XTA...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN May 5-8 2023 for induction. Induction completed & ferried SIN>SEA>ATL Aug 19-20 2023.entered service ATL>MXP Sept 3 2023. No WiFi.
MSN 027...3569...N569DZ...ex PR-XTB...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN April 13-15 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>LAX>ATL July 7 2023...entered service ATL>BCN July 15 2023. No WiFi.
MSN 048...3570...N570DZ...ex A7-AMC/PR-XTE...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Feb 24-26 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL May 17 2023...entered service ATL>CDG May 27 2023. No WiFi.
MSN 064...3571...N571DZ... ex A7-AMB/PR-XTF...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Jan 12-14 2023 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL April 4 2023...entered service ATL>AMS April 15 2023. No WiFi.
MSN 200...3572...N572DZ...ex PR-XTH...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Nov 9-11 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL Jan 20 2023entered service ATL>GTB Feb 11 2023. No WiFi.
MSN 250...3573...N573DZ...ex PR-XTIferried VCV>SEA>SIN Sept 27-29 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>ATL Dec 7 2022...entered service DTW>HNL Jan 1 2023. No WiFi.
MSN 265...3574...N574DZ...ex A7-AQA/PR-XTJ...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN June 2-5 2022 for induction...induction completed & ferried SIN>SEA>MSP Aug 19 2022...entered service ATL>SEA Sept 9 2022. 2Ku WiFi.
MSN 282...3575...N575DZ...ex A7-AQB/PR-XTK...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN Feb 11-13 2022 for inductioninduction completed & ferried SIN>MSP June 1 2022entered service ATL>DTW June 13 2022. 2Ku WiFi.
MSN 313...3576...N576DZ...ex A7-AQC/PR-XTL...ferried VCV>SEA>SIN March 10-12 2022 for inductioninduction completed & ferried SIN>MSP July 18 2022entered service ATL>SEA Aug 2 2022. 2Ku WiFi.
*The 9 ex-LATAM frames were refurbished between February 2022 and September 2023config of the 3-class cabin is D1/30C+/63MC/246 for a total of 339 seats.


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Best Seats, Amenities, & Experiences on Delta's A350

Old Apr 29, 17, 5:54 am
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Originally Posted by dinanm3atl
Come on. Multiple people, including myself, have called the PM/DM line and asked and told W is 'sold out' when the seat map shows every single seat open. Search for the flight you booked and no W is available.

It's a placeholder. Or a backup plane should the 350 not arrive. Although if it doesn't arrive and it's a 747 route why would they drop a 777... maybe it goes back to 747 until the a350 arrives.
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Old Apr 29, 17, 7:55 pm
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Answered in post #114
I knew I had read it here somewhere. I was being lazy. Sorry. Hoping it will be the A350 in January!
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
At least one of DL's A359s is in final assembly, so they're getting close.

https://instarix.com/media/BQa_CcDlOEG
Something's not right with this photo. The aircraft in the foreground with the widget tail has an odd "First Delta A350" banner on it, but if you look closely at the aircraft in the background, you'll see the tail is clearly a reverse image.
The photo has been manipulated.
I'm not saying the photo isn't of Delta's #1 , but I'll bet ten bucks that banner above the cabin door was added digitally.
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Just before I posted this, I went back and read the tweet...And the tweeter said he made the photo himself because there weren't any actual photos available to him.
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Delta is said to be consider delaying 3 billion airbus order

Delta is said to be consider delaying 3 billion airbus order. For your Friday evening news dump. Early it was rumoured that Delta was considering deferring 10 or so A350-900s. AA is deferring the A350-900s until 2020. UAL taking the A350-1000 is on hold. Delta could end up having 15 A350-900s with no other US airline having a single one in their fleet. Due to Airbus delays, it sounds like Delta is only receiving five A350-900s this year and likely six instead of five next year. My guess is Delta may end up deferring for longer than three years and up using them to replace the 777-200ERs when they approach 30 years of age in 12 years or convert the final ten aircraft into A330-900 NEOs and stretch out the A330-900 NEO delivery schedule. Another alternative is to hang to these ten A350-900 ordered, and eventually use this order to replace the 777-200LR way down the road.
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Old May 5, 17, 4:11 pm
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Not really surprising, I mean, what would DL do with 15 of them? A handful of DTW-Asia routes and perhaps LAX-PVG/ICN. That's really it. A350 is way too big for any SEA route.
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
Not really surprising, I mean, what would DL do with 15 of them? A handful of DTW-Asia routes and perhaps LAX-PVG/ICN. That's really it. A350 is way too big for any SEA route.
Since an internal Delta memo said they'll be keeping the 777-200LR on Australia flying, not much of a need to have so many A350-900s at least for now. (Incidentally, per VA/DL JV, the next flight added in the JV is going to be operated on Delta metal.) I'm guessing DTW-ICN/PEK/PVG, ATL-NRT/ICN, LAX-PVG, and SEA-HKG are the routes most needed for the A350-900 as they are longer than 6,500 miles, and DTW-NRT due to local demand. Other than SEA-HKG, I don't think you'll see the A350-900 at SEA. Or Delta could place a 777-200ER on the route permanently. The A330-200 is stretched to the limit on DTW-PEK/SEA-HKG. DTW-PEK is going back to a 777-200ER this winter, presumably made possible with the A350-900s flying DTW-Asia. Ah, what do I know. Best guess is DTW-Asia, with the exception of DTW-NGO, goes all A350-900 by the end of 2018.
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
Not really surprising, I mean, what would DL do with 15 of them? A handful of DTW-Asia routes and perhaps LAX-PVG/ICN. That's really it. A350 is way too big for any SEA route.
The intent is to take the 15. The deferral is for #s 16-25.

As for what they would do with them... Well, they need between 8 and 9 to replace the 747 capacity. The rest of the 15 may replace some of the 767 capacity as they age.
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Originally Posted by pbarnette
The intent is to take the 15. The deferral is for #s 16-25.
Missed that, thanks.

Originally Posted by pbarnette
The rest of the 15 may replace some of the 767 capacity as they age.
That's a very lopsided replacement. In that case, maybe they can use the A359s to finally replace the CR2s!!
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Keep in mind Delta parked several 747s without replacement. By year's end Delta will have retired all of the 747s, plus three 767-300ERs after the summer, and replaced with ten 242 tonne A330-300s and five A350-900s. Not exactly a complete replacement. Per FlightGlobal, Delta will retire an additional three 767-300ERs after summer 2018. (I expect these will be the ex-Gulf Air aircraft due to their age and additional features specific to those aircraft that make them more similar to the domestic non-ETOPS 767-300s that completed retirement in February.) So it really won't be until 2019 when Delta is supposed to have 15 A350-900s in addition to the already 10 delivered 242 tonne A330-300s when the 747s, along with several 767s will have been fully replaced. Its the same year Delta is scheduled to receive the first of the A330-900 NEOs, but it probably won't be until 2020 when they see commercial service. The number 16 has also been tossed around for how many A350-900s Delta is planning on inducting into their fleet over the next two to three years. The truth is Delta is probably lowering expectations on international expansion between now and 2020. Other than a few more longhaul flights across the Pacific from LAX and maybe a resumption of DTW-HKG, that's probably it for international expansion in the short to medium term.
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Well, my speculation was correct. The A350 is just too big for Delta's needs. It isn't that much smaller than the 744. I wonder if they could sell them off for a profit as soon as they take delivery. Delta did that several years ago with a precious aircraft order. Operating such a small subfleet just doesn't seem economical.
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
That's a very lopsided replacement. In that case, maybe they can use the A359s to finally replace the CR2s!!
It's the same function where 717s replaced CR2s and E145s:

CR2>CR7

CR7>CR9 or E75

CR9>717

Voila, 91 717s replaced (the seat count of) ~300 CR2s - and passengers rejoiced!

As 767-300ERs age out, there can be a cascade of 764/332/333/777/359.
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Originally Posted by readywhenyouare
Well, my speculation was correct. The A350 is just too big for Delta's needs. It isn't that much smaller than the 744. I wonder if they could sell them off for a profit as soon as they take delivery. Delta did that several years ago with a precious aircraft order. Operating such a small subfleet just doesn't seem economical.
I noted above that I don't think DL needs too many A359s, but they do need some. There are 7 or 8 DL routes that are very well suited to this plane. I assure you DL will not sell the entire fleet upon delivery. A small subfleet makes perfect sense to handle these niche routes. Imagine the jokes if DL unveils its new Delta One Suites then immediately sells them to another airline.
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
I noted above that I don't think DL needs too many A359s, but they do need some. There are 7 or 8 DL routes that are very well suited to this plane. I assure you DL will not sell the entire fleet upon delivery. A small subfleet makes perfect sense to handle these niche routes. Imagine the jokes if DL unveils its new Delta One Suites then immediately sells them to another airline.
Maybe, but people need to realize that Delta will always be a distant #2 to United when it comes to Asia. Seattle is certainly no San Francisco. And if the Detroit auto makers get themselves in trouble again they won't be bailed out under a republican administration. Delta can kiss DTW goodbye then. The auto industry is the only thing keeping that region on life support. BTW, is the city of Detroit out of bankruptcy yet?
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I wonder if Delta would have been better off ordering about 10 777-200 LR's (the way AA and UAL have ordered 777-300ER's) to replace the 747's instead of adding a new fleet type (350-900). Delta made its decision, but I wonder if it was the best one. In about 15 years, I am sure Delta will have at least 25 350-900's in the fleet, as the 777's will be gone by then.
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Maybe, but people need to realize that Delta will always be a distant #2 to United when it comes to Asia. Seattle is certainly no San Francisco. And if the Detroit auto makers get themselves in trouble again they won't be bailed out under a republican administration. Delta can kiss DTW goodbye then. The auto industry is the only thing keeping that region on life support. BTW, is the city of Detroit out of bankruptcy yet?
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