Are there enough toilets on the new A350?
Jun 20, 17, 11:59 am
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Are there enough toilets on the new A350?
Has anyone noticed that there are only 4 lavatories for all of economy-class on Delta's new A350? Here's the aircraft map: https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...rbus-a350.html.
There are 226 passengers in economy-class, assuming all of the seats are occupied. That means there are 4 lavatories for 274 passengers, unless flight attendants allow the 48 premium-economy passengers to use the 4 lavatories designated for the 32 business-class passengers.
By comparison, there are 10 lavatories for the 328 economy-class and comfort-plus passengers in the Boeing 747. That's 1 lavatory for every 32.8 passengers on the 747 compared to 1 lavatory for every 68.5 passengers on the A350.
I suppose I need to remind folks not to go barefoot or without shoes/slippers into any lavatory once the plane boards.
There are 226 passengers in economy-class, assuming all of the seats are occupied. That means there are 4 lavatories for 274 passengers, unless flight attendants allow the 48 premium-economy passengers to use the 4 lavatories designated for the 32 business-class passengers.
By comparison, there are 10 lavatories for the 328 economy-class and comfort-plus passengers in the Boeing 747. That's 1 lavatory for every 32.8 passengers on the 747 compared to 1 lavatory for every 68.5 passengers on the A350.
I suppose I need to remind folks not to go barefoot or without shoes/slippers into any lavatory once the plane boards.
Jun 20, 17, 12:14 pm
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I suspect that Delta intends to designate two lavatories for business class, two for premium economy, and four for economy, despite where the boundary between business and premium economy is drawn on the seat map.
Jun 20, 17, 12:21 pm
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Even if that's the case there will be 1 lavatory for every 56.5 passengers. That is still a very high ratio for a brand new aircraft.
Jun 20, 17, 12:25 pm
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https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/KL...ng_787-900.php
Jun 20, 17, 12:34 pm
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It depends on your frame of reference. There are six lavs - total - on a KLM 787-9 that seats 294 passengers.
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/KL...ng_787-900.php
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/KL...ng_787-900.php
46.3 economy-class passengers per lavatory.
Jun 20, 17, 12:36 pm
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See: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28466173-post56.html
To me, it looks like these are the best seats:
Business-class: 5A, 5D, 7A, 7D. If the galley behind business-class is only used for beverages then I'd add 8A and 8D to the list, although passengers at the back of the cabin, depending on the purser and catering, may not get their preferred choice of meals.
Premium-economy: 1A, 1B, 1H, 1J.
Economy-class: 30A, 30C, 30G, 30J, 40B, 40C, 40G, 40H, 41A, 41J. If as with other aircraft, the last row (55) is blocked off for last-minute purchases from passengers with elite status then there's always a chance you could snag an entire row on a less-than-full flight.
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...rbus-a350.html
Business-class: 5A, 5D, 7A, 7D. If the galley behind business-class is only used for beverages then I'd add 8A and 8D to the list, although passengers at the back of the cabin, depending on the purser and catering, may not get their preferred choice of meals.
Premium-economy: 1A, 1B, 1H, 1J.
Economy-class: 30A, 30C, 30G, 30J, 40B, 40C, 40G, 40H, 41A, 41J. If as with other aircraft, the last row (55) is blocked off for last-minute purchases from passengers with elite status then there's always a chance you could snag an entire row on a less-than-full flight.
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...rbus-a350.html
Jun 20, 17, 1:11 pm
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Definitely on the high side - by far the highest of any wide-body long haul in the fleet.
By comparison (LH international planes only):
777: 254/5 = 50.8
333: 259/6 = 43.2
332: 200/4 = 50
763: 200/4 = 50
764: 206/4 = 51.5
757: 152/2 = 76 (though accessing the back D1 lav is easier than on the others especially during meal service / drink service when the cart is blocking the aisle)
By comparison (LH international planes only):
777: 254/5 = 50.8
333: 259/6 = 43.2
332: 200/4 = 50
763: 200/4 = 50
764: 206/4 = 51.5
757: 152/2 = 76 (though accessing the back D1 lav is easier than on the others especially during meal service / drink service when the cart is blocking the aisle)
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