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Are there enough toilets on the new A350?

Old Jun 20, 17, 12:59 pm
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Are there enough toilets on the new A350?

Has anyone noticed that there are only 4 lavatories for all of economy-class on Delta's new A350? Here's the aircraft map: https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...rbus-a350.html.

There are 226 passengers in economy-class, assuming all of the seats are occupied. That means there are 4 lavatories for 274 passengers, unless flight attendants allow the 48 premium-economy passengers to use the 4 lavatories designated for the 32 business-class passengers.

By comparison, there are 10 lavatories for the 328 economy-class and comfort-plus passengers in the Boeing 747. That's 1 lavatory for every 32.8 passengers on the 747 compared to 1 lavatory for every 68.5 passengers on the A350.

I suppose I need to remind folks not to go barefoot or without shoes/slippers into any lavatory once the plane boards.
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Old Jun 20, 17, 1:03 pm
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Do Basic Economy pax get to use the lav?!?!?
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Old Jun 20, 17, 1:14 pm
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I suspect that Delta intends to designate two lavatories for business class, two for premium economy, and four for economy, despite where the boundary between business and premium economy is drawn on the seat map.
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Old Jun 20, 17, 1:21 pm
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Originally Posted by MS02113 View Post
I suspect that Delta intends to designate two lavatories for business class, two for premium economy, and four for economy, despite where the boundary between business and premium economy is drawn on the seat map.
Even if that's the case there will be 1 lavatory for every 56.5 passengers. That is still a very high ratio for a brand new aircraft.
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What's the ratio on the B739? Pretty bad, I'd bet.
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Originally Posted by hockeyinsider View Post
1 lavatory for every 68.5 passengers on the A350.
Originally Posted by hockeyinsider View Post
1 lavatory for every 56.5 passengers.
Either scenario is better than the 737-800, which seats 144 economy passengers and has 1 lavatory for every 72 passengers.
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Old Jun 20, 17, 1:30 pm
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Originally Posted by hockeyinsider View Post
Even if that's the case there will be 1 lavatory for every 56.5 passengers. That is still a very high ratio for a brand new aircraft.
It depends on your frame of reference. There are six lavs - total - on a KLM 787-9 that seats 294 passengers.

https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/KL...ng_787-900.php
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row 40 looks like the best option in YC.
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme View Post
It depends on your frame of reference. There are six lavs - total - on a KLM 787-9 that seats 294 passengers.

https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/KL...ng_787-900.php
Except the A350 is brand new aircraft for Delta, which could have customized it to make up for any flaws or weaknesses in similar products of other airlines.

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Either scenario is better than the 737-800, which seats 144 economy passengers and has 1 lavatory for every 72 passengers.
Well, the 737 isn't on routes of 12 to 14-plus hours.

Originally Posted by davetravels View Post
What's the ratio on the B739? Pretty bad, I'd bet.
46.3 economy-class passengers per lavatory.
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Originally Posted by AANYC1981 View Post
row 40 looks like the best option in YC.
See: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28466173-post56.html

Originally Posted by hockeyinsider View Post
To me, it looks like these are the best seats:

Business-class: 5A, 5D, 7A, 7D. If the galley behind business-class is only used for beverages then I'd add 8A and 8D to the list, although passengers at the back of the cabin, depending on the purser and catering, may not get their preferred choice of meals.

Premium-economy: 1A, 1B, 1H, 1J.

Economy-class: 30A, 30C, 30G, 30J, 40B, 40C, 40G, 40H, 41A, 41J. If as with other aircraft, the last row (55) is blocked off for last-minute purchases from passengers with elite status then there's always a chance you could snag an entire row on a less-than-full flight.

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Old Jun 20, 17, 1:52 pm
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DL is trying to cut down on the number of new members in the mile-high club.
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Old Jun 20, 17, 2:11 pm
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Definitely on the high side - by far the highest of any wide-body long haul in the fleet.

By comparison (LH international planes only):

777: 254/5 = 50.8
333: 259/6 = 43.2
332: 200/4 = 50
763: 200/4 = 50
764: 206/4 = 51.5
757: 152/2 = 76 (though accessing the back D1 lav is easier than on the others especially during meal service / drink service when the cart is blocking the aisle)

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Old Jun 20, 17, 2:15 pm
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Lavatories don't generate revenue. Seat do. It's that simple.
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Old Jun 20, 17, 2:20 pm
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I believe Delta will kick you off for trying to use the lavatory...
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Old Jun 20, 17, 2:29 pm
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Maybe DL could pull a RyanAir and try to monetize the lavs, want to use the D1 lav but seated in Y, just $5 or 500 Skymiles

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