NYC WX Waiver 5/25
May 24, 2017, 9:12 am
#1
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: BOS
Programs: DL DM 2MM, Marriott LT Titanium, Hertz PC, Avis PC
Posts: 15,158
NYC WX Waiver 5/25
DL posted a weather waiver for the NYC area for Thurs, May 25th.
Tickets must be reissued by 5/28 for travel on or earlier than 5/28.
Affected Cities (To / From / Through)
Newburgh, NY (SWF)
New York, NY-Kennedy(JFK)
New York, NY-LaGuardia (LGA)
Newark, NJ (EWR)
White Plains, NY (HPN)
Tickets must be reissued by 5/28 for travel on or earlier than 5/28.
Affected Cities (To / From / Through)
Newburgh, NY (SWF)
New York, NY-Kennedy(JFK)
New York, NY-LaGuardia (LGA)
Newark, NJ (EWR)
White Plains, NY (HPN)
May 24, 2017, 9:38 am
#3
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: LAX/BUR, RDU
Programs: DL SM, AAdvantage, SPG
Posts: 1,360
DL has been cautious recently (after the ATL incident), issuing preemptive weather waivers to give pax the option of changing flights, which would ideally decrease the stress on these airports in the event of IRROPS.
May 24, 2017, 10:00 am
#4
Join Date: May 2008
Location: NYC
Programs: DL PM; UA 1K; AA 1MM
Posts: 4,501
Any time NYC gets rain and low cloud ceilings, delays are likely.
DL has been cautious recently (after the ATL incident), issuing preemptive weather waivers to give pax the option of changing flights, which would ideally decrease the stress on these airports in the event of IRROPS.
DL has been cautious recently (after the ATL incident), issuing preemptive weather waivers to give pax the option of changing flights, which would ideally decrease the stress on these airports in the event of IRROPS.
May 24, 2017, 10:04 am
#5
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: BOS
Programs: DL DM 2MM, Marriott LT Titanium, Hertz PC, Avis PC
Posts: 15,158
Good for DL for being proactive/more cautious about weather delays. Having the waiver helps as some pax will re-route to other airports or change their travel date, so there is more space available on the flights through the effected area to rebook pax in case of delays/cancellations.
May 24, 2017, 10:20 am
#6
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2008
Programs: Formaldehyde Medallion DL DieMiles
Posts: 12,646
The gap in this planning, however, is that it overlooks the spillover effect on other NE corridor cities.
IME, delays in NYC area end up causing delays into PHL, for example, even when the skies are clear in PHL.
IME, delays in NYC area end up causing delays into PHL, for example, even when the skies are clear in PHL.
May 24, 2017, 10:40 am
#7
Join Date: May 2008
Location: NYC
Programs: DL PM; UA 1K; AA 1MM
Posts: 4,501
Weather (storms at least) anywhere in the region result in compacted routing options that will often extend from BOS to PHL and maybe even DC. IME, it takes storms, not just rain/clouds, to make the impacts more widespread (butI could be wrong)
May 24, 2017, 10:53 am
#9
Join Date: May 2008
Location: NYC
Programs: DL PM; UA 1K; AA 1MM
Posts: 4,501
May 24, 2017, 11:02 am
#10
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 2
May 24, 2017, 11:17 am
#11
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: DL PM, 1MM, DL SC, Kimpton Inner Circle
Posts: 2,416
DL has been issuing weather waivers for the NY area very frequently lately, and often when the forecast doesn't seem especially severe or unusual. I agree it's a good thing to be proactive and I fully appreciate what they're doing, but it also seems to highlight how fragile the air traffic system is in that area.
May 24, 2017, 1:19 pm
#14
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,249
That's why Delta issued a weather waiver for "just rain".
May 24, 2017, 1:29 pm
#15
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: NYC
Programs: Delta DM, 2MM
Posts: 1,254
This happened about two weeks ago with massive rain/low visibility.
I was supposed to fly LGA-MSP at 6:55pm. The inbound got stuck in TPA with ATC Flow. Flight left 6+ hours late.
We ultimately gave up.
I was supposed to fly LGA-MSP at 6:55pm. The inbound got stuck in TPA with ATC Flow. Flight left 6+ hours late.
We ultimately gave up.
