Long layover at PVG
#16
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BDU
Programs: DL:MM, Marriott:LTT
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-the longest it's ever taken me to get through border control in either direction is 30 minutes
-while it's true that the Maglev runs 3-4 times per hour (so the maximum wait is 20 minutes), they generally stick to their schedule exactly so it's possible to plan around specific trains
-taxis shouldn't be overlooked either (often no waiting required)
-while it's true that the Maglev runs 3-4 times per hour (so the maximum wait is 20 minutes), they generally stick to their schedule exactly so it's possible to plan around specific trains
-taxis shouldn't be overlooked either (often no waiting required)
#17
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: HNL
Programs: DL PM/1MM, BW DE (lifetime), HH DE, Marriott PE (lifetime), National Emerald Executive
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I don't think KE flies ICN-CJU. Only GMP-CJU (the world's busiest single airline route, I believe). You could have likely got the KE connection by booking xxx-ICN/GMP-CJU. Or, DL could have given you xxx-NRT(or elsehwere)-GMP-CJU, which I guess it didn't.
#18
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Join Date: Sep 2016
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Delta issued the ticket, but the flight are MU coded flight numbers. As long as the MQMs are at 100%, I'm happy.
#19
#20
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Programs: DL PM, Marriott, IHG
Posts: 193
On a seven hour layover this would be a bad idea. It can take an hour to get the visa and another hour to get back through security. Planning to be at the gate an hour before take-off eats a third hour. The Maglev Train runs every 20 minutes, eating up perhaps 40 minutes waiting. It takes 8 minutes to ride between the city and the airport. While it's doable, it's rushed IMO. Granted, these are long, but realistic, time estimates, but even if everything goes right, how much time does that yield in Shanghai?
OP, if you are interested in going into Shanghai, which I did recently, call the airline and see if they will move you to a connecting flight the next day. I actually called from the SkyClub after checking in for my departure flight and they were able to move me for free. Do not attempt going in on a seven hour layover unless you enjoy a lot of rushing for a relatively small payoff.
OP, if you are interested in going into Shanghai, which I did recently, call the airline and see if they will move you to a connecting flight the next day. I actually called from the SkyClub after checking in for my departure flight and they were able to move me for free. Do not attempt going in on a seven hour layover unless you enjoy a lot of rushing for a relatively small payoff.
I would like to thank everybody for the excellent information and, more importantly, taking the time to post the information. The signal-to-noise ratio in this forum is outstanding.
#21
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Programs: DL PM, Marriott, IHG
Posts: 193
I thought I would follow up with my experience thus far on my trip--the information on Flyer Talk about China Eastern and the lounge at PVG appears to be a bit inconsistent (unless you pay close attention to the dates).
The main cabin experience on the MU 777-300ER was pleasant--I would put the quality of the product solidly above average (in the 50% to 75% interval). The cabin crew was very friendly and helpful, the food was good (I had the rice noodles), and there was good attention to detail (clean cabin). The boarding process at LAX was smooth and efficient. The seats were not the most comfortable (the seats on the MU A319 that I took as a connection to Jeju was more comfortable), but the legroom was good. During the boarding process you pass through the J cabin and it looked quite good. It does appear that one can buy an upgrade to J once you boarded (10,000 Renmibi) or F (30,000 Renmibi) via the seatback AVOD.
The MU lounge at PVG was excellent (easily on par with or better than the B Sky Club at ATL). Good variety of food, self service wine, showers, massage chairs. The staff was friendly and efficient. The signage to get to the lounge is not super clear, but the directions on FlyerTalk (after passing through transit security go right) helped.
Transit at PVG was easy (and fast because of my early morning arrival). The only negative (as others have mentioned) are the frequent flight delays. My connection departure was delayed and we ended up waiting for 3 hours (we boarded for the original departure)--fortunately the seat was comfortable and I ended sleeping for most of the delay. I definitely recommend having a snack handy.
Hopefully my flight back on Thursday will be equally pleasant.
The main cabin experience on the MU 777-300ER was pleasant--I would put the quality of the product solidly above average (in the 50% to 75% interval). The cabin crew was very friendly and helpful, the food was good (I had the rice noodles), and there was good attention to detail (clean cabin). The boarding process at LAX was smooth and efficient. The seats were not the most comfortable (the seats on the MU A319 that I took as a connection to Jeju was more comfortable), but the legroom was good. During the boarding process you pass through the J cabin and it looked quite good. It does appear that one can buy an upgrade to J once you boarded (10,000 Renmibi) or F (30,000 Renmibi) via the seatback AVOD.
The MU lounge at PVG was excellent (easily on par with or better than the B Sky Club at ATL). Good variety of food, self service wine, showers, massage chairs. The staff was friendly and efficient. The signage to get to the lounge is not super clear, but the directions on FlyerTalk (after passing through transit security go right) helped.
Transit at PVG was easy (and fast because of my early morning arrival). The only negative (as others have mentioned) are the frequent flight delays. My connection departure was delayed and we ended up waiting for 3 hours (we boarded for the original departure)--fortunately the seat was comfortable and I ended sleeping for most of the delay. I definitely recommend having a snack handy.
Hopefully my flight back on Thursday will be equally pleasant.