2017 The Year of the A350

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A350 Current Routes:
DTW>NRT Started Oct 30 2017 (from B744). First flight was flown by N502DN and it was the inaugural A350 flight.
DTW>ICN Started Nov 18 2017 (from B744). First flight was flown by N501DN.
DTW>PEK Started Jan 17 2018 (from A332). First flight was flown by N503DN.
DTW>AMS (Alternating DL132/133 and DL134/135) Started March 31 2018 (from A332/333). First flight was flown by N502DN.
DTW>PVG Started April 19 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N508DN.
ATL>ICN Started March 24 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N504DN.
LAX>PVG Started July 2 2018 (from B777). First flight was flown by N504DN.
SEA>NRT Started March 1 2019 (from B767/A333). First flight was flown by N502DN.

Press Releases Regarding A350 Routes:
http://news.delta.com/delta-s-new-a3...eon-march-2018
http://news.delta.com/delta-expands-...rope-and-china

A350 Fleet #/ Registration #/ Delivery Date/ Entry Into Service (13/25 Delivered):
3501 N501DN Delivered from TLS>ATL Aug 5 2017. Entered service Oct 31 2017. Flew the first A350 flight from DTW>ICN Nov 18 2017.
3502 N502DN Delivered from TLS>ATL Sept 1 2017. Entered service and flew the inaugural A350 flight from DTW>NRT Oct 30 2017.
3503 N503DN Delivered from TLS>MSP Nov 1 2017. Entered service from DTW>NRT Nov 18 2017. Flew the first A350 flight from DTW>PEK Jan 17 2018.
3504 N504DN Delivered from TLS>MSP Nov 29 2017. Entered service from DTW>NRT Dec 18 2017. Flew the first A350 flight from ATL>ICN on March 24 2018. Flew the first A350 flight from LAX>PVG on July 2 2018.
3505 N505DN Delivered from TLS>ATL>MSP Dec 12-13 2017. Entered service from DTW>NRT Jan 12 2018.
3506 N506DN Delivered from TLS>ATL Dec 22 2017. Entered service from DTW>ICN Feb 7 2018.
3507 N507DN Delivered from TLS>ATL Feb 21 2018. Entered service from DTW>NRT March 17 2018.
3508 N508DN Delivered from TLS>ATL March 6 2018. Entered service from DTW>ICN March 30 2018.
3509 N509DN Delivered from TLS>ATL April 13 2018. Entered service from DTW>ICN May 6 2018.
3510 N510DN Delivered from TLS>ATL May 24 2018. Entered service from DTW>NRT June 16 2018.
3511 N511DN Delivered from TLS>ATL June 14 2018. Entered service from DTW>ICN July 7 2018.
3512 N512DN Delivered from TLS>ATL Jan 26 2019. Entered service from ATL>ICN Feb 14 2019.
3513 N513DZ Delivered from TLS>ATL March 1 2019. Entered service from DTW>AMS March 21 2019.
3514 N514DN MSN 395...On order and to be delivered in 2020.
3515 N515DN MSN 404...On order and to be delivered in 2020.
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Old Feb 28, 19, 5:45 pm
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N502DN flys the first SEA-NRT A359 leg on 1-March-2019
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Old Mar 1, 19, 11:01 pm
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Quick anecdote... Boarding DL133 this morning (AMS-DTW), the gate attendants repeatedly announced boarding for Premium Select. That's great and all, but 133 is on a A332. Looks like the KLM staff running the show can't keep things straight. Surprising, honestly, since the A359 isn't a super new addition to the route.
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Old Mar 20, 19, 8:52 pm
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Around 1-September 2019, DL swaps out a A359 aircraft doing the SEA-NRT city pairs and swaps in a A339 aircraft. From what I have analyzed so far, Delta has not redeployed this freed up aircraft into keeping it active in some way shape or form. I guess it may become a spare to be swapped in as the remaining used 12 A359 may need to be taken out of service for some "checks"....or, is this too soon for some of the oldest A359's that have now been around and in use now for 2 years? If new service is being thought of, it hasn't been disseminated yet. Any thoughts, rumors, etc?
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Old Mar 20, 19, 9:37 pm
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Originally Posted by ChamplinAl View Post
Around 1-September 2019, DL swaps out a A359 aircraft doing the SEA-NRT city pairs and swaps in a A339 aircraft. From what I have analyzed so far, Delta has not redeployed this freed up aircraft into keeping it active in some way shape or form. I guess it may become a spare to be swapped in as the remaining used 12 A359 may need to be taken out of service for some "checks"....or, is this too soon for some of the oldest A359's that have now been around and in use now for 2 years? If new service is being thought of, it hasn't been disseminated yet. Any thoughts, rumors, etc?
All 13 will have to have the Comfort + cabin installed at some point, but I haven't heard when this will begin. The same goes for the 42 A332/333s. But that doesn't answer your questions unfortunately!
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Old Mar 21, 19, 6:32 pm
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Originally Posted by audidudi View Post
All 13 will have to have the Comfort + cabin installed at some point, but I haven't heard when this will begin. The same goes for the 42 A332/333s. But that doesn't answer your questions unfortunately!
Good information - thanks. So the 13 (A359's) + the 42 A330's (excluding the new 339's) totaling 55 aircraft will need to be upgraded to the 4 group cabins. Probably not fully completed within 2019 (or 2020), but fairly quickly. Will the remaining 2 undelivered 359's (that are scheduled to arrive sometime in 2020) going to be delivered to Delta fully dressed with 4 group cabins so no out of service will happen after delivery? I believe they will be used on the MSP-PVG-MSP legs to begin service in 2020-June sometime (if Delta is to be allowed to fly the city pairs).
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Old Mar 21, 19, 6:37 pm
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Originally Posted by ChamplinAl View Post
Good information - thanks. So the 13 (A359's) + the 42 A330's (excluding the new 339's) totaling 55 aircraft will need to be upgraded to the 4 group cabins. Probably not fully completed within 2019 (or 2020), but fairly quickly. Will the remaining 2 undelivered 359's (that are scheduled to arrive sometime in 2020) going to be delivered to Delta fully dressed with 4 group cabins so no out of service will happen after delivery? I believe they will be used on the MSP-PVG-MSP legs to begin service in 2020-June sometime (if Delta is to be allowed to fly the city pairs).
Yes the two A350 deliveries in 2020 will have the four-class cabin already installed at TLS before delivery.
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Old Mar 22, 19, 4:36 am
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3513 has entered revenue service:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N513DZ

That's it for A350s entering service in 2019; 2 more are coming next year.
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Old Mar 25, 19, 7:03 pm
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Delta has scheduled the A350 on ATL-AMS from 01SEP19 to 25OCT19
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Old Mar 26, 19, 10:51 am
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Originally Posted by Chadg View Post
Delta has scheduled the A350 on ATL-AMS from 01SEP19 to 25OCT19
https://twitter.com/airlineroute/sta...972119046?s=12
Thank you for that information. I guess using 359's for only the TPAC routes wasn't 100% correct. But if a TATL trip can fit into the 359's schedule and keep the current TPAC schedule, that's good. Planes don't make money sitting on the ground. No info on what happens after October 25th?
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Old Mar 26, 19, 11:45 am
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Originally Posted by eastindywalrus View Post
Quick anecdote... Boarding DL133 this morning (AMS-DTW), the gate attendants repeatedly announced boarding for Premium Select. That's great and all, but 133 is on a A332. Looks like the KLM staff running the show can't keep things straight. Surprising, honestly, since the A359 isn't a super new addition to the route.
Boarding procedures in AMS for DL flights are different from day to day in my experience and a bit of a mess usually....don't think I have seen the same procedure twice for the flights I have boarded over the last few years!
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Question: A Delta FB post today made it appear that the wing tip design has changed from earlier 359s.... is that indeed the case, and what was that modification?
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Originally Posted by ChamplinAl View Post
Thank you for that information. I guess using 359's for only the TPAC routes wasn't 100% correct. But if a TATL trip can fit into the 359's schedule and keep the current TPAC schedule, that's good. Planes don't make money sitting on the ground. No info on what happens after October 25th?
Worse when planes don't make money in the air either. Too many cheap fares TPAC. Their TPAC strategy has changed a great deal since ordering the A359.

Anytime you drop an essential TPAC destination like HKG which has plenty of O&D traffic from many US cities, you are admitting you cannot compete with your own metal. Hate it as a DM traveler; like it as a DL shareholder.

They are leaning heavily on alliances for traffic to non-hubs in Asia. Will be interesting to see how they handle SIN once the last few Tokyo TPAC's move over to HND.
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Question: A Delta FB post today made it appear that the wing tip design has changed from earlier 359s.... is that indeed the case, and what was that modification?
This is a change Airbus made to all 359s after a certain MSN, it's not specific to Delta. I believe the winglet is taller, and the wing twist is also slightly different.
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it's very subtle, here's a side-by-side pic:
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Old Mar 26, 19, 2:37 pm
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Originally Posted by ChamplinAl View Post
Thank you for that information. I guess using 359's for only the TPAC routes wasn't 100% correct. But if a TATL trip can fit into the 359's schedule and keep the current TPAC schedule, that's good. Planes don't make money sitting on the ground. No info on what happens after October 25th?
What? Who said 359s were only for TPAC? DL's 359 have already flown dozens, perhaps hundreds, of revenue TATL flights.
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