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Originally Posted by matthew64832
(Post 27790425)
When I am staying on the exact same flight, and just want to change my fare to a higher basis, I have NEVER paid a change fee, whether it was from an X fare to an H fare or from a V fare to a P fare (or whatever).
I've done this between two coach fares and also from coach to domestic first without change fees numerous times without even any mention of change fee. Not saying that it is a policy, but it sure felt like it. |
Originally Posted by jdrtravel
(Post 27790304)
But you need to look at same day first class fares compared to advanced purchased coach, because that is the fare difference you would be paying for a same day change to F. A search on Delta.com right now for ATL-MSP shows:
Lowest price for same day one-way first class ticket: $486 Lowest price for one month advance purchase coach: $173 (or $153 for an E fare) Difference is $313 Could be significantly more or less depending on the flight (there were one way same day F fares for as much as $1k and one way advanced Y fares for as high as $550) |
Originally Posted by flyerCO
(Post 27790634)
However it's not been a "waiver" it's been policy. I've never tried at the airport, but I know reservations has never charged me or anyone else (including no status) a change fee to upfare to the next available fare class in order to SDC.
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Originally Posted by davetravels
(Post 27789621)
Doesn't make sense to me that, that would be allowed. If everyone did this, then, they could always buy the cheapest ticket for that day, and SDC later to a fare that doesn't exist anymore.
Seems to me that, this is a similar gripe of the Delta apologists who post here about the SDC policy for all F fare buckets, in that, you can buy the cheapest fare available on any old flight that day, then, 24 hours in advance of travel, just choose ANY flight you want! |
Originally Posted by Renes Points
(Post 27789629)
Now you sound Delta-like ;-)
I have, as I am sure any number of Diamonds, most times had reps wave fees and allow SDC for just the fare difference. |
Originally Posted by TTT
(Post 27791275)
IME, when requesting a SDC change online and fare class availability doesn't exist on the desired flight, the online tool charges the $200 ACS fee + any fare difference.
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
(Post 27792241)
In this case, it's being processed as a ticket change, not SDC. For this price, you don't have to wait for the 24 hour window but can make the change any time, or at least any time after the outbound has been flown.
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Sometimes you have to do HUCA multiple times. I was ticketed on a DTW/ORD fare today and my fare class wasn't available to ORD but was for a MDW flight I wanted and the diamond desk agent insisted I couldn't SDC for a coterminal and the best she could do was put me on standby for the ORD flight and I could see if the gate agent could put me on the list once I got to the airport.
Called a couple hours later and was told I couldn't SDC into a coterminal and did HUCA and a few seconds later I was on the MDW flight. If Delta is charging the change fee to buy up to a higher fare class that is pretty low seeing how they screwed us with the SDC changes |
Originally Posted by pvn
(Post 27791458)
I'm not really sure how anyone other than people buying Y, B or M would be able to SDC if it worked the way you think it should.
I was under the impression that the rules were enforced. If I'm on a V fare, I can SDC to another flight with V availability or I can try my luck at SDS . I never thought one could SDC from a V fare, to, say an X upfare, if X class is available for five or ten dollars more. |
Originally Posted by davetravels
(Post 27792740)
I'm not sure I understand what you're talking about . . . .
I was under the impression that the rules were enforced. If I'm on a V fare, I can SDC to another flight with V availability or I can try my luck at SDS . I never thought one could SDC from a V fare, to, say an X upfare, if X class is available for five or ten dollars more. |
Originally Posted by TTT
(Post 27791275)
IME, when requesting a SDC change online and fare class availability doesn't exist on the desired flight, the online tool charges the $200 ACS fee + any fare difference.
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Originally Posted by ruckzac
(Post 27792983)
As far as I'm aware, virtually all X fares have an advanced purchase requirement. Even if X fare inventory was available, you wouldn't be able to buy a new ticket with an X fare or upfare your existing ticket to an X fare on the day of departure. The lowest fare I've seen without advanced purchase requirements is U, but I'm sure it can vary by market.
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
(Post 27792992)
ARE you sure you're not clicking change flights, instead of search for other flight options during the OLCI pages?
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All seems consistent with removing discretion from front-line agents to achieve consistent pax treatment.
In theory, practice is supposed to mirror the published rules and that would be SDC, SDSB or change ($200 + fare difference). An agent seeking to grant a waiver would need approval and to state a specific reason which gets audited. Reading tea leaves --- start looking at tougher SDC rules over the next year. |
Originally Posted by flyerCO
(Post 27792999)
AP doesn't come into play in this situation. They use historical pricing from date of purchase or the then current X fare w/of regard to AP.
Also, if I cancelled a flight and had a residual credit on the ticket after any penalties, would that mean that I could have access to advance purchase fare buckets after the advanced purchase deadline has passed? |
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