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mctaste Jan 18, 2020 8:00 am


Originally Posted by WillBarrett_68 (Post 31965396)
It's ridiculous that class of service figures into how much compensation DL (or any airline, really) figures into how much compensation is offered in these situations.

not really. consider ife as a fraction of your ticket price. ife becomes worth more to the passenger in first, less in coach.

WillBarrett_68 Jan 18, 2020 8:04 am


Originally Posted by mctaste (Post 31965584)
not really. consider ife as a fraction of your ticket price. ife becomes worth more to the passenger in first, less in coach.

If I buy a J ticket, is the IFE worth more to me than if I bought a Z ticket? It's the exact same movies, and it's not the cheaper ticket only gets to use the IFE for a smaller portion of the flight.

WillBarrett_68 Jan 18, 2020 8:10 am


Originally Posted by WestCoastPDX (Post 31965427)
Are we really so far gone as a country that 5 hours without a television in front of our faces is something we request compensation for?

The fact that it's frivolous isn't really relevant

exwannabe Jan 18, 2020 8:22 am


Originally Posted by WestCoastPDX (Post 31965427)
Are we really so far gone as a country that 5 hours without a television in front of our faces is something we request compensation for?

Being in a plane is a highly confined situation, and most normal activities used to pass time are precluded.

If I found out that I had stupidly forget to charge my devices 5 hours would be a long time to be "dark". OTOH, I would hardly care about the IFE if I am properly prepared.

At home though, I need neither. Even if I lost all power at my house for 5 hours I could keep busy doing chores.

So yeah, I do understand the OP complaint.

mot29 Jan 18, 2020 8:53 am

It's been years since I've had non-working IFE on a DL flight, and I don't recall the compensation.
I burned leftover AA miles for business class rt RDU-LHR last fall and got 10,000 miles for problematic IFE. Bunch of movies didn't play beyond the recycling Marriott commercials. The miles came without a request, it was handled by the FA. The ticket was 115,000 AA miles RT; DL would have been 160,000.
Which is a complaint about AA - at least the DL commercial before the films is for Delta. AA shows multiple commercials for Marriott and other outside providers.

mctaste Jan 18, 2020 9:11 am


Originally Posted by WillBarrett_68 (Post 31965594)
If I buy a J ticket, is the IFE worth more to me than if I bought a Z ticket? It's the exact same movies, and it's not the cheaper ticket only gets to use the IFE for a smaller portion of the flight.

if the ife is 5% of your ticket, that would be $5 for a $100 ticket and $50 for a $1000 ticket. so yes, it is worth more based on what you pay.

and of course frequent flyer status shows how much you spend with the airline, and thus how much they want to cater to you.

CarmenOM Jan 18, 2020 10:44 am


Originally Posted by exwannabe (Post 31965654)
Being in a plane is a highly confined situation, and most normal activities used to pass time are precluded.

If I found out that I had stupidly forget to charge my devices 5 hours would be a long time to be "dark". OTOH, I would hardly care about the IFE if I am properly prepared.

At home though, I need neither. Even if I lost all power at my house for 5 hours I could keep busy doing chores.

So yeah, I do understand the OP complaint.

There’s a device called a book.

I frequently don’t use the IFE on international flights.

Duke787 Jan 18, 2020 11:59 am

Seems more than adequate compensation.

Also DL offers DL studio on all flights with IFE. You could have solved this problem by firing up your phone, laptop, or tablet and just streaming...

mctaste Jan 18, 2020 12:01 pm

the most i ever use ife is to turn on the flight tracker, or turn off the display.

reading a book, listening to my music, or watching content on my tablet is infinitely better than watching whatever crap the airline is being paid to promote.

WillBarrett_68 Jan 18, 2020 12:04 pm


Originally Posted by mctaste (Post 31965756)
if the ife is 5% of your ticket, that would be $5 for a $100 ticket and $50 for a $1000 ticket. so yes, it is worth more based on what you pay.

but that's just begging the question of whether a percentage of your ticket is the correct way to look at it (the fact that the compensation is almost always in a narrow band of 5k-15k should tell you this is wrong)

WillBarrett_68 Jan 18, 2020 12:07 pm


Originally Posted by CarmenOM (Post 31966068)
There’s a device called a book.

I frequently don’t use the IFE on international flights.

The fact that you personally don't use it is like the least relevant thing I can think of. Clearly, a LOT of people DO use it.

I frequently don't eat the meals on planes but if someone was denied a meal because (E.g.) the catering was short I wouldn't think they should just move on.

Gig103 Jan 18, 2020 12:10 pm


Originally Posted by WillBarrett_68 (Post 31965396)
It's ridiculous that class of service figures into how much compensation DL (or any airline, really) figures into how much compensation is offered in these situations.

I strongly disagree. F/J are a lot more expensive than a discount Y fare and that should include more service recovery if the experience doesn't match the price. 5500 on a $500 fare versus 5500 on a $5000 fare is 1/10th the compensation.


Originally Posted by WestCoastPDX (Post 31965427)
Are we really so far gone as a country that 5 hours without a television in front of our faces is something we request compensation for?

Are we really such slaves to corporations in this country that when they don't deliver something promised we should suck it up?

WillBarrett_68 Jan 18, 2020 12:14 pm

Both of you are basing the need for more compensation on the ticket price, not the class of service.

A full fare Y ticket is quite often more than a discount Z ticket on the same flight.

Yellowjj Jan 18, 2020 2:45 pm

Agent dependent but 5500 seems adequate for IFE. I was offered 3000 for a paid F downgrade before; needless to say I declined that offer.

gregsfortytwo Jan 18, 2020 4:27 pm


Originally Posted by mctaste (Post 31966331)
the most i ever use ife is to turn on the flight tracker, or turn off the display.

reading a book, listening to my music, or watching content on my tablet is infinitely better than watching whatever crap the airline is being paid to promote.

I don’t use IFE much either, but in marketing and financial reports Delta calls it out as a clear differentiator between themselves and their competitors, and in aggregate Delta charges a bit more for tickets than their competitors. So yes, a dysfunctional system is a service failure on their part that they should provide compensation for.


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