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FlyingHigh20 Mar 2, 2011 12:22 am


Originally Posted by GYEWorldTraveler (Post 15958924)
Delta does not upgrade passengers to BE just because they experienced a Mechanical Delay. The OP is requesting about $1000-2000 + in compensation by asking for an upgrade to BE from a typically coach fare. That just isn't going to happen.

I think its COMPLETELY fair to ask and expect this - seeing as how a 7 hour delay causes an average person to be more than exhausted. Is it unreasonable for a passenger to expect compensation in the form of a far more comfortable seat in hopes that they can make up some rest that they are losing due to Delta's negligence? I think not.



On the topic of appropriate compensation, since the OP is arriving 7 hours late, I would consider that a pretty severe delay and say that they should expect at least 10,000 miles or a $100-200 travel voucher.
No, I would say the least they should expect is $300. 7 hours of my time is worth at least that based on an average educated office employee's salary. If Delta cant get their planes together and properly maintain them, then there needs to be a consequence, just as they would charge me $250+fare difference if I were to change my international flight by even 3 hours of a difference due to my own negligence.

mooper Mar 2, 2011 12:44 am


Originally Posted by DiverDave (Post 15958057)
My understanding is the EU rules apply to foreign carriers when originating from the EU, but not on flights to the EU.

David

I don't think it is limited to foreign carriers originating from the EU. I had a similar experience as the OP, but MSP>LHR. I wrote to ask for compensation, and this was part of the response I received:


Your travel falls under the guidelines of European Union Regulation (EC) 261/2004 which define an airline's requirements when flight irregularities occur. When a flight is cancelled, passengers should be confirmed on the next available flight. Depending on the length of a passenger's delay, airlines are required to provide care and assistance as follows.

- Meals and refreshments
- Hotel accommodations if a passenger is forced to remain overnight
- Transportation to and from the accommodations
- Two communications in the form of telephone calls, fax messages, or emails
In the end, they put me on the same flight the next day in first class (I was originally, too), plus paid for said expenses and even threw in 25K miles for my trouble. More than fair - was happy with the experience.

Sabai Mar 2, 2011 1:52 am


Originally Posted by mooper (Post 15959166)

In the end, they put me on the same flight the next day in first class (I was originally, too), plus paid for said expenses and even threw in 25K miles for my trouble. More than fair - was happy with the experience.

If I may ask, which carrier has international F between MSP and LHR?

mooper Mar 2, 2011 2:01 am


Originally Posted by Sabai (Post 15959326)
If I may ask, which carrier has international F between MSP and LHR?

Meant biz, was DL.

lrbenko Mar 3, 2011 7:07 am

UPDATE
 
Update: I was never upgraded on the ATL-CDG flight, and it too was late by about 40mins. I made my connection from CDG to DUB, but my bag did not. I finally made into the office in Dublin at almost 4pm, and then I had to go straight to a company dinner in the same clothes I had been in since I left CHS the previous day. I know I could have purchased something and asked for re-imbursement, but time was an issue and I couldn’t stop anywhere due to being so late. My bag showed up at my hotel a little after 11pm. Remember, this is all due to a MX issue on the CHS-ATL flight, causing this delay. I checked this morning and I had been given a $200 Delta voucher. I kind of feel slighted, are my expectations too high here?

SDF_Traveler Mar 3, 2011 9:31 am


Originally Posted by GYEWorldTraveler (Post 15958924)
Delta does not upgrade passengers to BE just because they experienced a Mechanical Delay. The OP is requesting about $1000-2000 + in compensation by asking for an upgrade to BE from a typically coach fare. That just isn't going to happen. I do not believe that Delta policy even allows for that no matter what status you have. They will rebook you in the class of service that you purchased. On the topic of appropriate compensation, since the OP is arriving 7 hours late, I would consider that a pretty severe delay and say that they should expect at least 10,000 miles or a $100-200 travel voucher.

I've been upgraded to J TATL from stations on both sides of the Atlantic, without asking, on a couple of occasions due to MX re-route.

It can be done.

It's called providing customer service & pro-active service recovery.

Cheers,

SDF_Traveler

mooper Mar 3, 2011 9:44 am


Originally Posted by lrbenko (Post 15967266)
I kind of feel slighted, are my expectations too high here?

I think so.

javabytes Mar 3, 2011 1:32 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingHigh20 (Post 15959114)
I think its COMPLETELY fair to ask and expect this - seeing as how a 7 hour delay causes an average person to be more than exhausted. Is it unreasonable for a passenger to expect compensation in the form of a far more comfortable seat in hopes that they can make up some rest that they are losing due to Delta's negligence? I think not.

No, I would say the least they should expect is $300. 7 hours of my time is worth at least that based on an average educated office employee's salary. If Delta cant get their planes together and properly maintain them, then there needs to be a consequence, just as they would charge me $250+fare difference if I were to change my international flight by even 3 hours of a difference due to my own negligence.

Ask for it? Sure. Expect? No. Not saying it doesn't happen, but you're not really entitled to anything beyond what's in the CoC. You may not think it's fair, but it is what you agreed to when you bought the ticket. At the end of the day, you have bought passage from point A to point B and you have very little recourse as far as schedules/delays go. Anything DL offers above and beyond hotel/meal vouchers and rebooking on another carrier is a gesture of goodwill. You can turn your nose up at it if you want, or negotiate, but you're not really entitled to anything more.

lrbenko Mar 4, 2011 7:22 am


Originally Posted by javabytes (Post 15969834)
Ask for it? Sure. Expect? No. Not saying it doesn't happen, but you're not really entitled to anything beyond what's in the CoC. You may not think it's fair, but it is what you agreed to when you bought the ticket. At the end of the day, you have bought passage from point A to point B and you have very little recourse as far as schedules/delays go. Anything DL offers above and beyond hotel/meal vouchers and rebooking on another carrier is a gesture of goodwill. You can turn your nose up at it if you want, or negotiate, but you're not really entitled to anything more.

Not trying to be argumentative, but I kinda disagree. If the carrier can charge different prices and premiums for certain routes and times, then when I pay for that specific route and time, I have a reasonable expectation that I'm going to get what I paid for. Either way, I think it may just depend on who you ask for the upgrade and their mood at the time of the request. Thanks for everyones help and advice though.

tony Mar 22, 2011 10:02 pm

Compensation for Delayed Flight
 
I was originally booked on a flight from ATL yesterday at 8:45 PM which was delayed multiple times until it finally left at 1:30 AM. I am a Skymiles base Member. What is a reasonable compensation to ask for the delayed flight? I eventually just rented a car and drove.

WScottsdaleInsider Mar 22, 2011 10:03 pm

Why was the flight delayed?

mfong Mar 22, 2011 10:08 pm

I was on a delayed flight DL 0027 on 2/12/2011, was supposed to leave at 4:00pm (I think) but it finally left after midnight. We actually boarded once, tried to take off and returned to the gate.

At the end of the flight the FAs handed out $100 voucher booklets, but it never showed up in my SM account. I eventually had to call them to ask about it and they said that I had 2 $50 e-certs on file.

My flight was an international flight, DTW-HKG.

Hope this helps

dgxoxo Mar 22, 2011 10:31 pm

flight delayed for 3 hours due to mechanical to LHR. all pax received $100 vouchers, medallions received $200.

I wouldn't expect to get your car rental reimbursed...

djk7 Mar 22, 2011 11:07 pm


Originally Posted by tony (Post 16084421)
I was originally booked on a flight from ATL yesterday at 8:45 PM which was delayed multiple times until it finally left at 1:30 AM. I am a Skymiles base Member. What is a reasonable compensation to ask for the delayed flight? I eventually just rented a car and drove.

Similar situation, although mine was eventually cancelled. They just refunded the return portion of the ticket, I didn't bother to ask for anything more, but might have gotten some goodwill miles if I had.

Vuelos Mar 22, 2011 11:24 pm


Originally Posted by dgxoxo (Post 16084548)
flight delayed for 3 hours due to mechanical to LHR. all pax received $100 vouchers, medallions received $200.

I wouldn't expect to get your car rental reimbursed...

Interesting that they didnt offer comp in line with the EU regulations.


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