checking bags thru on partner airline but non-code-share flight
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checking bags thru on partner airline but non-code-share flight
This is probably old hat for more experienced international travelers, but is a new one for me. Traveling DTW-SGN, I booked through Delta DTW-ICN on Delta metal, then ICN-BKK on a KE code share, then separately booked BKK-SGN through Vietnam Air. VN is a lower-level Delta partner, but this flight was not available as a codeshare, and by booking separately I got a freakishly low total price (and an opportunity to spend a few free days in Thailand on the return!).
Can/should I try to have my bag checked from DTW all the way to SGN? My flight into BKK arrives around midnight and my flight to SGN leaves the next morning, so checking my bag all the way through would keep me from having to collect my bag and cool my heels for 8 hours outside the BKK terminal.
On a related note, will my SkyClub membership get me into the Air France lounge, even though I'm not flying Air France? If the answer above is yes and here is no, are there any other 24-hour lounges you'd suggest for purchase?
Advice on any aspect of this itin would be much appreciated!
Can/should I try to have my bag checked from DTW all the way to SGN? My flight into BKK arrives around midnight and my flight to SGN leaves the next morning, so checking my bag all the way through would keep me from having to collect my bag and cool my heels for 8 hours outside the BKK terminal.
On a related note, will my SkyClub membership get me into the Air France lounge, even though I'm not flying Air France? If the answer above is yes and here is no, are there any other 24-hour lounges you'd suggest for purchase?
Advice on any aspect of this itin would be much appreciated!
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I flew SFO>SEA>ICN last year on DL and then ICN>SGN on VN. Although the VN flight was not a code-share, the agent at SFO tagged my bag all the way to SGN, but told me that they normally wouldn't do this. Perhaps my DM status helped. I doubt that you'll be able to get yours checked all the way through, as you have an extra flight from ICN>BKK first, but good luck!
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Through check policy does not list VN --
https://pro.delta.com/content/agency...-policy--.html
Sky Club location finder only lists a handful of AF lounges where a Sky Club membership is accepted for entry. BKK is not one of them.
https://www.delta.com/skyclub/viewSk...equest.action#
I know the JNB AF lounge only allowed my entry based on my Skyteam Elite Plus status and did not accept my Sky Club membership as a valid form of entry.
https://pro.delta.com/content/agency...-policy--.html
Sky Club location finder only lists a handful of AF lounges where a Sky Club membership is accepted for entry. BKK is not one of them.
https://www.delta.com/skyclub/viewSk...equest.action#
I know the JNB AF lounge only allowed my entry based on my Skyteam Elite Plus status and did not accept my Sky Club membership as a valid form of entry.
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All that matters is whether this is on one or more tickets and then whether the carriers have interline baggage agreements. If on one ticket, DL can check as far as the final ticketed destination. If your ticket originating at DTW terminates at BKK, that is the furthest DL may ticket.
The exact amount of time you are schedule at BKK may also matter as 8 hours is also often a break across which carriers may not check luggage. You will need to check with KE, as it operates the flight into BKK, on that.
Forget about the use of the term "booking," all that matters is "tickets"
Alliances, codeshares, partners and the like are all marketing stuff.
The exact amount of time you are schedule at BKK may also matter as 8 hours is also often a break across which carriers may not check luggage. You will need to check with KE, as it operates the flight into BKK, on that.
Forget about the use of the term "booking," all that matters is "tickets"
Alliances, codeshares, partners and the like are all marketing stuff.
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Remember the change a couple years ago with status pax on international flights no longer getting access to contract lounges. And the BKK ST lounges are all Louis Tavern contract lounges. I thought they were on the "no go" list.
I am not saying you are wrong, as I really do not know.
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All that matters is whether this is on one or more tickets and then whether the carriers have interline baggage agreements. If on one ticket, DL can check as far as the final ticketed destination. If your ticket originating at DTW terminates at BKK, that is the furthest DL may ticket.
The exact amount of time you are schedule at BKK may also matter as 8 hours is also often a break across which carriers may not check luggage. You will need to check with KE, as it operates the flight into BKK, on that.
Forget about the use of the term "booking," all that matters is "tickets"
Alliances, codeshares, partners and the like are all marketing stuff.
The exact amount of time you are schedule at BKK may also matter as 8 hours is also often a break across which carriers may not check luggage. You will need to check with KE, as it operates the flight into BKK, on that.
Forget about the use of the term "booking," all that matters is "tickets"
Alliances, codeshares, partners and the like are all marketing stuff.
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Is this true?
Remember the change a couple years ago with status pax on international flights no longer getting access to contract lounges. And the BKK ST lounges are all Louis Tavern contract lounges. I thought they were on the "no go" list.
I am not saying you are wrong, as I really do not know.
Remember the change a couple years ago with status pax on international flights no longer getting access to contract lounges. And the BKK ST lounges are all Louis Tavern contract lounges. I thought they were on the "no go" list.
I am not saying you are wrong, as I really do not know.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l-lounges.html
the reduction in access applies "for passengers departing on a Delta-operated flight", I gather because DL is too cheap to pay for it. But since BKK-SGN is VN-operated I think OP would have access to any skyteam.com listed lounges there? Ultimately I don't really know either, but that's how I read it.
https://www.skyteam.com/en/lounges/l...rtcode=Bangkok - Suvarnabhumi Intl (BKK)
lists AF and CI lounges in addition to Louis' Tavern.
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If you're thinking of this:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l-lounges.html
the reduction in access applies "for passengers departing on a Delta-operated flight", I gather because DL is too cheap to pay for it. But since BKK-SGN is VN-operated I think OP would have access to any skyteam.com listed lounges there? Ultimately I don't really know either, but that's how I read it.
https://www.skyteam.com/en/lounges/l...rtcode=Bangkok - Suvarnabhumi Intl (BKK)
lists AF and CI lounges in addition to Louis' Tavern.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l-lounges.html
the reduction in access applies "for passengers departing on a Delta-operated flight", I gather because DL is too cheap to pay for it. But since BKK-SGN is VN-operated I think OP would have access to any skyteam.com listed lounges there? Ultimately I don't really know either, but that's how I read it.
https://www.skyteam.com/en/lounges/l...rtcode=Bangkok - Suvarnabhumi Intl (BKK)
lists AF and CI lounges in addition to Louis' Tavern.
Last edited by xliioper; Jan 5, 2017 at 11:45 pm
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Is this true?
Remember the change a couple years ago with status pax on international flights no longer getting access to contract lounges. And the BKK ST lounges are all Louis Tavern contract lounges. I thought they were on the "no go" list.
I am not saying you are wrong, as I really do not know.
Remember the change a couple years ago with status pax on international flights no longer getting access to contract lounges. And the BKK ST lounges are all Louis Tavern contract lounges. I thought they were on the "no go" list.
I am not saying you are wrong, as I really do not know.
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I flew MSP-DTW-ICN-CEB (and back) in the summer. ICN-CEB (and CEB-ICN) was on Asiana. My bags got checked all the way through until I hit customs at DTW on the way back.
Note - these were all technically on the same ticket, even though ICN-CEB is issued under different confirmations and such.
Note - these were all technically on the same ticket, even though ICN-CEB is issued under different confirmations and such.
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If you're thinking of this:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l-lounges.html
the reduction in access applies "for passengers departing on a Delta-operated flight", I gather because DL is too cheap to pay for it. But since BKK-SGN is VN-operated I think OP would have access to any skyteam.com listed lounges there? Ultimately I don't really know either, but that's how I read it.
https://www.skyteam.com/en/lounges/l...rtcode=Bangkok - Suvarnabhumi Intl (BKK)
lists AF and CI lounges in addition to Louis' Tavern.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...l-lounges.html
the reduction in access applies "for passengers departing on a Delta-operated flight", I gather because DL is too cheap to pay for it. But since BKK-SGN is VN-operated I think OP would have access to any skyteam.com listed lounges there? Ultimately I don't really know either, but that's how I read it.
https://www.skyteam.com/en/lounges/l...rtcode=Bangkok - Suvarnabhumi Intl (BKK)
lists AF and CI lounges in addition to Louis' Tavern.
BUT not on a DL operated flight when there is no SC nor ST lounge.
For example I would not get lounge on DL departure in Y cabin out of SIN but on VN KL AF KE departures. Go figure this DL policy???
On my VN SIN SGN connection from DL SIN arrival I have not had request to tag bags to SGN/HAN on VN turned down in 4 tries.
Last edited by tentseller; Jan 6, 2017 at 11:02 am
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https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...-benefits.html
in particular the "LOUNGE ACCESS" table about halfway down that page.