Split PNR - 17 yo traveler
Dec 29, 2016, 10:27 am
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Split PNR - 17 yo traveler
Good morning. I recently took advantage of the sale fares between MSP and FRA (connecting in DTW) for myself, wife and son. My international travel is going to be limited this year, so I'm thinking about pulling my GUC and applying them for my wife and I. Are there any challenges with splitting my 17 year old onto his own PNR so I can have him in Y while wife and I enjoy D1 as it appears I can only use certificates for one companion. Of course all assuming space is available.
Dec 29, 2016, 10:47 am
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I thought so and I knew about the unaccompanied minor thing for 16-17 year olds not being mandatory. Just wasn't sure about international, and if splitting it to apply GUC was anything to be concerned with.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Dec 29, 2016, 11:13 am
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A non issue at age 17. He will likely be thrilled to have you seated elsewhere so that he can make use of his fake ID for the free booze.
If he is tall, you might spring for C+ as the seat pitch can be awful.
If he is tall, you might spring for C+ as the seat pitch can be awful.
Dec 29, 2016, 11:30 am
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Some countries require documentation to prevent human trafficking of children. Children in their own PNR will trigger extra steps during checkin, but that won't be a hindrance if you have a birth certificate. Canada and South Africa are two examples. I don't know if Germany also requires this, but you should be aware of the possibility to be required to prove legal guardianship.
Dec 29, 2016, 11:42 am
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At 17, I'm sure he hasn't had a sip of booze.
Although, he was awfully excited to hear he can drink beer in Germany... ?!?
Dec 29, 2016, 11:43 am
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Some countries require documentation to prevent human trafficking of children. Children in their own PNR will trigger extra steps during checkin, but that won't be a hindrance if you have a birth certificate. Canada and South Africa are two examples. I don't know if Germany also requires this, but you should be aware of the possibility to be required to prove legal guardianship.
Dec 30, 2016, 1:43 pm
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Some countries require documentation to prevent human trafficking of children. Children in their own PNR will trigger extra steps during checkin, but that won't be a hindrance if you have a birth certificate. Canada and South Africa are two examples. I don't know if Germany also requires this, but you should be aware of the possibility to be required to prove legal guardianship.
Dec 30, 2016, 2:04 pm
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But the 17 year old will be travelling with his parents - all be it in a different cabin!
When they present to the Immigration Officer on arrival they should present together as a single family unit.
Ditto at check-in.
The main requirement which the OP should check is that their passports are valid for a period of 6 months beyond their visit.
https://travel.state.gov/content/pas...y/germany.html
When they present to the Immigration Officer on arrival they should present together as a single family unit.
Ditto at check-in.
The main requirement which the OP should check is that their passports are valid for a period of 6 months beyond their visit.
https://travel.state.gov/content/pas...y/germany.html
Dec 30, 2016, 2:11 pm
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But the 17 year old will be travelling with his parents - all be it in a different cabin!
When they present to the Immigration Officer on arrival they should present together as a single family unit.
Ditto at check-in.
The main requirement which the OP should check is that their passports are valid for a period of 6 months beyond their visit.
https://travel.state.gov/content/pas...y/germany.html
When they present to the Immigration Officer on arrival they should present together as a single family unit.
Ditto at check-in.
The main requirement which the OP should check is that their passports are valid for a period of 6 months beyond their visit.
https://travel.state.gov/content/pas...y/germany.html
Delta allowed me to split the PNR, and wife and I are GUC waitlisted for the long DTW>FRA segment.
Thanks all!
Dec 30, 2016, 10:28 pm
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My 14yr old daughter (1 of 4 daughters) went on a MR to SIN, then from KUL to REP (Cambodia) where there is no minimum legal drinking age. She was SO STOKED to be able to order her own DRINK at dinner!
Otherwise, when you book all your tix - you can split out your 17yr old, and they should (make sure they do) link your records together so that you still show as traveling all together.
Only drawback is that as a 17yr old (technically minor) - you won't be able to precheck them in until you get to the airport.
Dec 31, 2016, 12:51 am
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But the 17 year old will be travelling with his parents - all be it in a different cabin!
When they present to the Immigration Officer on arrival they should present together as a single family unit.
Ditto at check-in.
The main requirement which the OP should check is that their passports are valid for a period of 6 months beyond their visit.
https://travel.state.gov/content/pas...y/germany.html
When they present to the Immigration Officer on arrival they should present together as a single family unit.
Ditto at check-in.
The main requirement which the OP should check is that their passports are valid for a period of 6 months beyond their visit.
https://travel.state.gov/content/pas...y/germany.html
Dec 31, 2016, 2:02 am
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but not Germany where the OP is flying too!
If if it was a requirement then the State Department would include such a vital piece of information in the web page I linked to!
Dec 31, 2016, 7:03 am
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I have done this in the past with minors. Once I ran into trouble when one leg of travel returning from FCO was cancelled and myself and SO were rebooked automatically on the first flight in the morning because we were DM and GM and the kids 15,13,11 were left in the dust.
For whatever reason when you split the PNR they don't make you pay UM fees and you can still take the upgrade for the domestic part of travel or if it's upgradeable international. (I'm doing this for Panama in February)
For whatever reason when you split the PNR they don't make you pay UM fees and you can still take the upgrade for the domestic part of travel or if it's upgradeable international. (I'm doing this for Panama in February)
Dec 31, 2016, 8:05 am
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I have done this in the past with minors. Once I ran into trouble when one leg of travel returning from FCO was cancelled and myself and SO were rebooked automatically on the first flight in the morning because we were DM and GM and the kids 15,13,11 were left in the dust.
For whatever reason when you split the PNR they don't make you pay UM fees and you can still take the upgrade for the domestic part of travel or if it's upgradeable international. (I'm doing this for Panama in February)
For whatever reason when you split the PNR they don't make you pay UM fees and you can still take the upgrade for the domestic part of travel or if it's upgradeable international. (I'm doing this for Panama in February)