New Boarding
Dec 19, 2016, 8:02 pm
#61
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I have pointed out to an FA that the guy in front of me clearly had 3 carry on's. She said he was in FC, so it was OK...
Once this behavior is allowed once, it is pretty much hard to enforce at a later point because it becomes and expectation by the offender....
Once this behavior is allowed once, it is pretty much hard to enforce at a later point because it becomes and expectation by the offender....
Dec 19, 2016, 8:41 pm
#62
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Dec 19, 2016, 9:15 pm
#63
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Dec 19, 2016, 10:01 pm
#64
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Dec 19, 2016, 10:08 pm
#65
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If someone boards in front of me with more than two carry on bags (especially the ones who have a large rollaboard, a hanging bag and a computer bag), I ask the GA if the announcement was wrong. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
The ones who also drive me to the nuts are the passengers who have two full size (actually usually oversized) rollaboards. In what possible way does that translate to a carryon and a small personal item
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The ones who also drive me to the nuts are the passengers who have two full size (actually usually oversized) rollaboards. In what possible way does that translate to a carryon and a small personal item
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Dec 19, 2016, 11:30 pm
#66
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Makes the GA's process pretty easy as there's no payment to process, and while the baggage office will have to deal with irate pax, it's all happening on the ground, after the flight, when someone pitching a fit isn't going to hold up a plane full of people.
Dec 19, 2016, 11:38 pm
#67
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I've been saying for years that airlines should have a practice where if you show up with too many or too large of a carry on, it gets gate checked with a brightly colored tag which results in it getting delivered, last to the baggage service office at your final destination. When the offending pax goes to collect their bag, they must pay 2x or 3x the standard fee to get it back.
Makes the GA's process pretty easy as there's no payment to process, and while the baggage office will have to deal with irate pax, it's all happening on the ground, after the flight, when someone pitching a fit isn't going to hold up a plane full of people.
Makes the GA's process pretty easy as there's no payment to process, and while the baggage office will have to deal with irate pax, it's all happening on the ground, after the flight, when someone pitching a fit isn't going to hold up a plane full of people.
Dec 20, 2016, 5:56 am
#68
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(once again) you are arguing apples, we are arguing oranges.
The safe assumption here is that most PM or DM and/or MM has spent a significant amount of money on DL. I would argue that most of us on FT are in the top percentage of spenders on Delta. As such, we are in the "$$$$" category. Has nothing to do with the class purchased. Though, often I purchase F. Argument has nothing to do with the price of F.
I get sick of people rushing F with 4 bags seeing how fast they can take up the overhead bins and stuff their life above their seat. Check a bag, act like a human, and bring compliant carry ons. That's all. You aren't special.
The safe assumption here is that most PM or DM and/or MM has spent a significant amount of money on DL. I would argue that most of us on FT are in the top percentage of spenders on Delta. As such, we are in the "$$$$" category. Has nothing to do with the class purchased. Though, often I purchase F. Argument has nothing to do with the price of F.
I get sick of people rushing F with 4 bags seeing how fast they can take up the overhead bins and stuff their life above their seat. Check a bag, act like a human, and bring compliant carry ons. That's all. You aren't special.
Dec 20, 2016, 8:12 am
#69
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It is the cheap that don't want to pay, and the delicate snowflakes in F that think they shouldn't have to that are both the problem. This solves one.
Dec 20, 2016, 8:29 am
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In theory, EVERYONE with an E fare has to have human contact anyway. They can only generate seat request cards from home. Most don't know to scan at boarding for their new card. Use it as a chance for more revenue from these people. After all, the entire theory behind E fares is unbundling. F9 EK and G4 ALL charge for carry on bags. Delta should start. Don't want to pay, there's a fare for that.
It is the cheap that don't want to pay, and the delicate snowflakes in F that think they shouldn't have to that are both the problem. This solves one.
It is the cheap that don't want to pay, and the delicate snowflakes in F that think they shouldn't have to that are both the problem. This solves one.
Dec 20, 2016, 8:57 am
#71
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I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong. But I think DL should wait and see what happens with United. It's easy for Frontier and Allegiant to police the carry-on bags since everyone is subject to being charged for it. I'm surprised to hear that Emirates charges for carry-on bags though. It will be harder for United to see who is breaking the rules unless they have a dedicated boarding zone for basic economy fares.
Dec 20, 2016, 9:02 am
#72
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Love This
In ATL yesterday morning and DL was trying a new boarding procedure. Poles up with Prem (in Priority lane) then Pole w/Sky, Zone1, Zone 2 & Zone 3 with ropes for each line.
All of us in the Prem line were giving the GA a hard time about this looking and feeling like Southwest (cattle Car) she smiles shook her head and agreed with us, I really hope this does not catch on with Dl
Anyone else see this lately?
All of us in the Prem line were giving the GA a hard time about this looking and feeling like Southwest (cattle Car) she smiles shook her head and agreed with us, I really hope this does not catch on with Dl
Anyone else see this lately?
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Dec 20, 2016, 12:36 pm
#74
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Off to board my CR7 in row 1 and do battle with the entitled. I have a briefcase. They will have their life. I guess in row 1, I will definitely get some overhead or closet space for a bag with a laptop.
Dec 20, 2016, 2:39 pm
#75
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First, with respect to the relic of the golden age of flying that is JFK: Delta either needs to totally demolish it and build a properly-sized, modern terminal (and get rid of the classy greyhound bus while they're at it), or find some way to significantly enlarge the gate areas. Perhaps put in much smaller jetways - there's no reason for the silly huge jetways they currently have. Or, they could put in two-level gate areas.
What I'd love to see is for new terminal space (preferably with an airside connection to T4) built to fill in where T3 used to be; they could then move T2 flights there, knock down T2, and build a new T2 connecting T1 and the new T3-ish thing. At that point T1-4 become the SkyTeam Complex (or for old D&D fans the Temple of Elemental Evil which was module "T1-4").