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Originally Posted by Widgets
(Post 27552632)
If you think it's rude to be asked to move so you're not next to an unaccompanied infant, then you should be completely fine with sitting next to that infant.
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Originally Posted by third_wave
(Post 27552497)
The better policy would be not to allow companion upgrades for passengers who are too young to sit by themselves.
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I'm not sure 2C was a jerk. We don't know if the OP dropped it after 2C said no, but continued to ask Why not? We don't know how the OP posed his request.
I would've switched, but the OP should never EXPECT other flyers to cede to his demands. :p |
Jumping back in.
1c said no. 1c was also not a native English speaker so maybe he didn't get it? I get 2c has every right to say no. He was just a jerk about it. I still don't get why he'd rather sit next to a toddler than in a window seat, but it's his call. im sure sitting next to two people was a lot worse than having to move. 1d wound up getting taken up by a barely strapped in car seat. I'm guessing it would have been too much work to move things around. Would they have had to cancel my sons ticket for him to fly infant in arms? |
Originally Posted by injera
(Post 27552767)
Jumping back in.
1c said no. 1c was also not a native English speaker so maybe he didn't get it? I get 2c has every right to say no. He was just a jerk about it. I still don't get why he'd rather sit next to a toddler than in a window seat, but it's his call. im sure sitting next to two people was a lot worse than having to move. 1d wound up getting taken up by a barely strapped in car seat. I'm guessing it would have been too much work to move things around. Would they have had to cancel my sons ticket for him to fly infant in arms? |
Originally Posted by MEMLawGuy
(Post 27552380)
That said, on basically any single aisle, domestic flight (in F), I think it would actually be rude of anyone to refuse a polite request to switch to another equivalent F seat. So, if I asked someone to switch from 2B to 3B so I could sit with my spouse, I think common decency insists that the person agree as long as they have no "real" reason to refuse. I would never refuse such a request myself.
Agreed, but I also notice that spouses that are split up almost never ask for someone to switch seats so they can sit together. Usually, I figure out they are married when they start talking through me and then I ask if they want to switch and with some nudging and prodding, eventually they accept. |
I am an aisle set person and will usually switch aisle for aisle in F. I am generally not responsive to other seat switching requests -- but I have never been asked by somebody with a kid. That, or somebody traveling with an elderly person or somebody else who might need assistance is a different case and I'd like to think I would switch and not channel my inner Mr Wilson -- which seems to come out more as I get older ("You kids get off of my lawn!") :)
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Originally Posted by javabytes
(Post 27552512)
"Excuse me sir, I'm traveling with my 1 year old and we've been seated apart. I'm in 1D, and he's right next to you. If it's all the same to you, would you mind switching seats?"
... is intrusive to you? https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poe...s/detail/52702 OP could always have moved back to the back, and would have no problem finding to people seated next to each other who would be willing to move to the front. One time I got a last-second upgrade (waiting to see if a no-show would actually show up, I think - GA made me wait until exactly 10 minutes). I was in an aisle, was seated next to mbwmbw, said I liked the window and he said he'd move with alacrity. Then later I discovered my table was broken and he made me move back so I could have a working table. |
Originally Posted by Bowgie
(Post 27551505)
OP, put your toddler son in row 2 Take your assigned seat in row 1.
One of two things will happen: 1. You son can see you in the row ahead, be reassured, and behave well. 2. Son pitches a fit, and Mr. Rude will change his mind and swap seats. If Mr Rude gives you any 'tude, you can tell him to STFU. I forgot to add a title: "Call his bluff". (I don't have any kids myself, so don't take this as parent-approved advise.) |
Originally Posted by MEMLawGuy
(Post 27552149)
I get that 2C was a jerk. But what about 1C not switching?
To go back to the point someone made about DL's ops when upgrading to account for families: I've been advised on multiple occasions when I SDC to a flight in first that only has a bulkhead seat left that I "may" have to be reseated to accommodate a person with disabilities. Couldn't Delta extrapolate this out to account for small children under a certain age? It's a safety thing. Even if the child had been older, say 3-5 years, and remained alone in his seat next to Mr. Jerk 2C, what would have happened in an emergency requiring oxygen masks? 2C would be under no "obligation" to assist the child, and it could be very difficult for the OP to get back to his child to help -- nevermind keeping the child calm during the emergency. Seems like DL could have forced 1C to relocate to 2D in this circumstance. I know that's not "the rule," but it's just food for thought. OP should've asked the FAQ to handle once passenger refused. My only question is was the other passenger in the other row asked? It seems only asked the one passenger. This is my only issue with this. Asked passenger was way out of line, a simple no is all that is needed. I was asked to switch on a BA319 yesterday so guy could sit with wife. I was in aisle and of course he was the window, but standing in aisle seat to make it look like he was aisle. Refused with a simple sorry, no. It worked out. 1C misconnected, I got that unlimited legroom seat and he got to sit by wife. Bottom line there's no need for rudeness. |
Originally Posted by Ny76
(Post 27551852)
As someone who almost always flys alone and strongly believes children under the age of 30 should be placed in the overhead bin or stowed underneath the seat in front of you I would say that 2C is a jerk. Asking to switch aisle to window on a short flight in F is a trivial thing. This guy was acting like you were asking him to move back to 31b.
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It seems most of the issue was the guy being a jerk in his response, especially since there was a reasonable reason for the ask.
At the same time, a while ago I had been asked to switch to a clearly inferior seat (e.g. exit row vs non-exit row on a 5.5 hour flight) by a couple who were separated because they were on standby. That was annoying ("your lack of planning isn't my problem") and so I had a knee-jerk brusque response the next time I was asked on another flight soon after. I try to be more thoughtful about it now. |
Originally Posted by BenA
(Post 27554170)
As someone with medical issues that may require me to hop up to the lavatory at any time, trust me - aisle and window seats are not equivalent for me, and the difference between them is not trivial.
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Originally Posted by injera
(Post 27551503)
Next time i'll just uncheck the upgrade request box. But honestly i didnt think it would be an issue for this flight, as, again, who would rather sit next to a toddler over an adult? But for me, I would rather sit in an Aisle in the far back of Y than a window in F. I have even declined a flight once because I would be stuck in a window. As said, you had the option to go back to EC. But you would rather force me into a seat I can not handle. Yes, I have a real problem with the attitude you continue to express that your desire to be in F outweighs mine for an aisle. Admittedly you were unlucky to find a case where nobody in F was willing to take switch. |
Originally Posted by readywhenyouare
(Post 27552299)
Every time I have been asked to swap seats it involved me switching to a middle seat. No, I don't care how short the flight is, I will not sit in a middle seat. I wouldn't have a problem swapping F seats but the good Y seats are sacred. Your lack of planning is not my problem.
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