Below FC but above C+.

I'm guessing it will earn 100-150% MQM, maybe depending on the exact fare class.

Oh, sorry everyone. I really had no idea on fare class, MQMs, etc. I was going by where Delta was "attempting" to rank it by onboard experience. On the Onboard Experience section of the website, DL seems to "rank" it above First for a a few reasons -- and I agree.

I would expect to rank premium economy above domestic first class as well. Let's say in 2-4 years when this rolls out, you can choose fly ATL-LAX on a 757 in domestic first class, or on an internationally configured 777 in premium economy. It will probably be sold as "Comfort+" on domestic routes. I would pick premium economy if it meant getting the seat shown, even without the international amenities.

I believe AA frequent fliers can already seek out their new premium economy seat on domestic 787-9 routes.

I have flown Virgin Atlantic's premium economy product and every aspect of the hard and soft product were superior to domestic first in my opinion.

You're confusing totally different products only offered in separate markets. D1 is offer on international flights and JFK-LAX/SFO only. There is no First class on these flights. Only Business which is what D1 is. First class is only offered on domestic and some short haul international flights.

PS is the new cabin on international flights. It's basically Comfort+ but at an upgraded level for international flights. Seat and meal wise it will be close to domestic First service.

Funny, ps is what UA has called its premium transcon service for many years.

I realized that after clicking post and reading it.

Byrules on DL website say Premium (Select) will net 150% MQM.
Let's see how much award ticket will go for. It could be an interesting alternative to J, hopefully.

Is it the agents or the customers? I read some posts on FT and think that people are flying on a different airline entirely. I have literally NEVER had a problem with an agent. I treat them with respect and kindness....I don't travel with business cards for the FAA....I don't travel with printouts of rules. I let agents do their jobs, and I make reasonable requests if inconvenienced.

I had a recent experience where I was "viper"ed off of a flight. It was a LONG international flight and I showed up at the gate (unknown that I had been taken off) with no reservation. They gave me middle seats/non-reclining in the back row (that's all that was left). There was no anger...just a chuckle....I asked if I could wait for boarding to complete before getting on in case any aisles opened up. Respectfully...cheerfully. I get it...things happen. I was rewarded with a seat in Delta One (they would have had to op up two passengers anyway). I am 100% positive it was my attitude that yielded that seat. Based on the route, I guarantee there were other DM/MM on a higher fare than me.

So I have 2 comments on this:

1) DL is pushing this as some great thing, but they are well over 10 years behind the others in the industry on this

2) I have flown Premium Economy on Eva, Virgin Atlantic, etc etc etc and the seats are pretty comfortable (similar to domestic FC) is it just me or when you look at the ad pictures that these seat cushions look EXTREMELY THIN? Like 737-900 Main Cabin thin padding?

I also hadn't realized that Delta changed the name to Premium Select sometime after the initial announcement. For some reason I can't help but think of McDonald's erstwhile "premium" offering, Chicken Selects:

http://www.diet-blog.com/wp-content/...kenSelects.jpg

DL is a bit behind the times on international PE. But realistically pre-merger DL was pretty small internationally. Then when NW was brought in they also didn't have international PE so at the time it was far easier to not have PE. But now 7-8 years after the fact when they've returned to sustained profitability they can make that investment. The roll out I'm sure will be slow and not always perfect, but so was the roll out of lie-flat seats. I'm sure virtually everyone here would agree the end result was worth the temporary bumps.

Must've been the JV or intern marketing team that modified the name. Premium Select sounds like something advertised for a food product like that chicken above.

IMO that would be a catering improvement over some of the domestic F meals I have had on DL!

Perhaps they need to go back and rethink the entire name. I didn't necessarily think that "Delta Premium" was great, but I got it. To me, "Premium Select" seems to imply that they are trying to differentiate the product from "Premium", only it doesn't exist.

Very strange that a version of economy class is superior to a version of first class.