All suite business class in 2017
Aug 16, 2016, 8:42 pm
#92
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I have to agree.....looks a little Spartan......almost Amtrak-like. But with doors, I don't have to see anyone's feet spread out on either side of the monitor......getting tired of passing notes to the gross folks in the first row of the front cabin with feet on the bulkhead.
Aug 16, 2016, 8:43 pm
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Have any of the 777 D1 cabins been fitted with the new Delta One seat covers?
Aug 16, 2016, 8:45 pm
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That's pretty bad given Delta's focus on attracting and maintaining HVC and premium passengers. Is this due to lack of on-going maintenance on the seats or the seats being at the end of their projected life cycle?
Have any of the 777 D1 cabins been fitted with the new Delta One seat covers?
Have any of the 777 D1 cabins been fitted with the new Delta One seat covers?
Aug 16, 2016, 10:10 pm
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Wow, AusBT with the scoop and new photos!
Did they just take the wind out of QR's sails? Can't imagine the QR Super J seats being that much better.
http://www.ausbt.com.au/delta-air-li...n=home-flipper
Did they just take the wind out of QR's sails? Can't imagine the QR Super J seats being that much better.
http://www.ausbt.com.au/delta-air-li...n=home-flipper
Aug 16, 2016, 10:42 pm
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I'm very curious to find out if Delta intends to eventually roll the suites out to the A333/A339 and the 764s. The timeline for the A339s is delivery from 2019 forward, so they're a long ways away. And presumably the A333s are still half a decade or more away from an interior refresh. So they could just be sitting on the details — otherwise it represents a major shift in Delta strategy, where routes truly become isolated to plane type.
Whatever the case, I highly doubt any of the 763s will see suites.
Whatever the case, I highly doubt any of the 763s will see suites.
Based on the fleet plans to replace 747s with 350-900, and based on the fact that the article quotes that only flights over 12 hours will have the suite product, I wouldn't expect any 330 or 767 fleets to get this product.
Not only do these fleets fly shorter routes, but the width of the fuselage of the 777 and 359 are both 2-3 meters wider than the 767 and 330 fleets.
Not only do these fleets fly shorter routes, but the width of the fuselage of the 777 and 359 are both 2-3 meters wider than the 767 and 330 fleets.
From this paragraph, it's clear that:
- Suites will be introduced on the A350 a/c coming into service next fall.
- Suites will not be retrofit to existing a/c Delta One cabins.
- NYT doesn't know the difference between 777s and 787s, as that paragraph references "new Boeing 777 plane" which DL has none on order, and then "18 Boeing 777 aircraft" which matches DL's current 787 order.
Elsewhere in the article, they mention the suites coming to a/c flying longer routes of over 12hrs, so that pretty much excludes any a/c flying US-EU routes. There will definitely be no suites on 767s, and I'd venture to say A330s or existing 777s.
- Suites will be introduced on the A350 a/c coming into service next fall.
- Suites will not be retrofit to existing a/c Delta One cabins.
- NYT doesn't know the difference between 777s and 787s, as that paragraph references "new Boeing 777 plane" which DL has none on order, and then "18 Boeing 777 aircraft" which matches DL's current 787 order.
Elsewhere in the article, they mention the suites coming to a/c flying longer routes of over 12hrs, so that pretty much excludes any a/c flying US-EU routes. There will definitely be no suites on 767s, and I'd venture to say A330s or existing 777s.
No, as DL said the 777 will get it.
Makes sense.
I would think LAX-HND or LAX-PVG would almost certainly be the inaugural, and I would imagine that eventually every TPAC flight would have this product.
I imagine DL's plan is after replacing 747s with the A350, the rest of them would go to replacing A330s on TPAC routes, which would then be moved to TATL service to replace many of the 767s currently doing TATL service. Since the A330s have quite new D1 seats, this would constitute a product upgrade on those routes as well over the "coffin" seats on the 76.
As the 777s are also getting this new product, I doubt they get moved around too much. Perhaps some of the 777s currently doing Ex-NRT routes would again be moved onto current 747 routes freeing up A350s and A330s for lower demand routes.
I imagine DL's plan is after replacing 747s with the A350, the rest of them would go to replacing A330s on TPAC routes, which would then be moved to TATL service to replace many of the 767s currently doing TATL service. Since the A330s have quite new D1 seats, this would constitute a product upgrade on those routes as well over the "coffin" seats on the 76.
As the 777s are also getting this new product, I doubt they get moved around too much. Perhaps some of the 777s currently doing Ex-NRT routes would again be moved onto current 747 routes freeing up A350s and A330s for lower demand routes.
Aug 16, 2016, 11:05 pm
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I have to agree.....looks a little Spartan......almost Amtrak-like. But with doors, I don't have to see anyone's feet spread out on either side of the monitor......getting tired of passing notes to the gross folks in the first row of the front cabin with feet on the bulkhead.
Aug 16, 2016, 11:08 pm
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34 763ERs were delivered in '96 or later. First 764 was 2000. Those will be around for a while and I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of modded J cabin (whether it be whole new seats or soft mods of the current product, like dividers or better padding).
Agreed.
NYT article said primarily 12 hours or longer, not only.
Yes.
No, as DL said the 777 will get it.
Makes sense.
I think the 350 will initially fly DTW-AMS to get crews familiarized with the aircraft before it starts flying long haul. Then eventually it will fly to Asia from DTW, expand to LAX-Asia/SYD.
Agreed.
NYT article said primarily 12 hours or longer, not only.
Yes.
No, as DL said the 777 will get it.
Makes sense.
I think the 350 will initially fly DTW-AMS to get crews familiarized with the aircraft before it starts flying long haul. Then eventually it will fly to Asia from DTW, expand to LAX-Asia/SYD.
Aug 17, 2016, 12:26 am
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Much as it sucks to say, the writing is on the wall: with the advent of true Premium economy, it's going to be hard as hell to do mileage upgrades (and probably even redemptions) into the new D1.
Other way around: eight 77Es and ten 77Ls
The ones scheduled to arrive in a little over 3yrs.
Aug 17, 2016, 1:08 am
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Aug 17, 2016, 2:45 am
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Certainly not on the A350, thats pretty much a guaranteed 3-3-3. On the 777 though I would be shocked if they didn't go 3-4-3 in economy, as both United and American are going that route.
Aug 17, 2016, 6:37 am
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I'm kind of surprised there is no mention of the premium economy product yet either... you'd think that would be announced along with the D1 seating since they must've selected the W seats and overall configuration by now for the 350.
Its 1-2-1 for D1 and pretty certain 3-3-3 for C-, but what about W? 2-3-2 or 2-4-2? Or is it just going to be C+ 3-3-3?
Its 1-2-1 for D1 and pretty certain 3-3-3 for C-, but what about W? 2-3-2 or 2-4-2? Or is it just going to be C+ 3-3-3?
