Originally Posted by Robbyb03 (Post 27074995)

Two things that could significantly improve D1 service are keeping the cabin temperature cooler (76 degrees is not cooler, I'm talking like 68-70 degrees) and replacing the seats with some that don't retain heat. Hell, my vehicle has heated and cooled seats, why can't Delta One?!?

Originally Posted by Longboater (Post 27073118)

The Vantage XL seat for the A350/777 is about four inches wider than the 767 Vantage seat. This doesn't include additional storage space.

Originally Posted by Agremeister (Post 27073849)

Looks (albeit it is hard to see) very similar to the seats Cathay Pacific use in PE, which is actually 7 abreast on the A330, and I would imagine 7 abreast on the A350 as well.

Originally Posted by Robbyb03 (Post 27074995)

I could care less about a door next to my individual seat. Two things that could significantly improve D1 service are keeping the cabin temperature cooler (76 degrees is not cooler, I'm talking like 68-70 degrees) and replacing the seats with some that don't retain heat. Hell, my vehicle has heated and cooled seats, why can't Delta One?!?

Originally Posted by securesmaskfirst (Post 27075222)

THANK YOU!
I run really hot. Others can always put on more clothes. I can only take off a certain amount to stay cool. I keep my home and hotels as low as they can go. I have even resorted to bringing along a USB fan on flights ,that many a menopausal FA have asked about, in lie flat seats. Then again if there is a door to the suite, I could just go Au Natural.

Originally Posted by readywhenyouare (Post 27072180)

I hate to say it but United's new Polaris offerings look nicer than this.

Originally Posted by rylan (Post 27072088)

I wonder if they're using the Thompson Vantage XL seats modified with a door?

Originally Posted by sky303 (Post 27074541)

I'm assuming no middle overhead bins in the 360 DL released of the cabin is just so we have a better visual idea of what the cabin looks like. Unless there really won't be middle OH bins?

Originally Posted by bennos (Post 27073564)

Adding more fuel to the rumor, I think the B6 A321 seats are Vantage (not XL) seats modified with a door?

Originally Posted by AndyPatterson (Post 27075489)

Also, what about couples traveling together? Can they still chat across the center seats or across the aisle? Or do the partitions make that hard, even with the door open?

Originally Posted by readywhenyouare (Post 27072180)

I hate to say it but United's new Polaris offerings look nicer than this.

Originally Posted by Bradhattan (Post 27075573)

I have to agree.....looks a little Spartan......almost Amtrak-like. But with doors, I don't have to see anyone's feet spread out on either side of the monitor......getting tired of passing notes to the gross folks in the first row of the front cabin with feet on the bulkhead.

Originally Posted by nichojo (Post 27072587)

They absolutely have to refit the existing triple-sevens, those seats are in a state of disrepair (the seat on my SYD-LAX flight on Saturday had to be pushed back to go flat and had a broken USB port, light, and IFE).

Originally Posted by hard8 (Post 27075800)

That's pretty bad given Delta's focus on attracting and maintaining HVC and premium passengers. Is this due to lack of on-going maintenance on the seats or the seats being at the end of their projected life cycle?

Have any of the 777 D1 cabins been fitted with the new Delta One seat covers?

Originally Posted by jimrpa (Post 27074936)

More importantly, what ab out the 777s and 787s?

Originally Posted by jrkmsp (Post 27071864)

I'm very curious to find out if Delta intends to eventually roll the suites out to the A333/A339 and the 764s. The timeline for the A339s is delivery from 2019 forward, so they're a long ways away. And presumably the A333s are still half a decade or more away from an interior refresh. So they could just be sitting on the details — otherwise it represents a major shift in Delta strategy, where routes truly become isolated to plane type.

Whatever the case, I highly doubt any of the 763s will see suites.

Originally Posted by GRALISTAIR (Post 27072057)

I think they needed to make an announcement now and get two bites of the cherry with a further big announcement - after last week they needed some good news.

Originally Posted by inthecloud (Post 27072069)

Based on the fleet plans to replace 747s with 350-900, and based on the fact that the article quotes that only flights over 12 hours will have the suite product, I wouldn't expect any 330 or 767 fleets to get this product.
Not only do these fleets fly shorter routes, but the width of the fuselage of the 777 and 359 are both 2-3 meters wider than the 767 and 330 fleets.

Originally Posted by akcae (Post 27072534)

From this paragraph, it's clear that:
- Suites will be introduced on the A350 a/c coming into service next fall.
- Suites will not be retrofit to existing a/c Delta One cabins.
- NYT doesn't know the difference between 777s and 787s, as that paragraph references "new Boeing 777 plane" which DL has none on order, and then "18 Boeing 777 aircraft" which matches DL's current 787 order.

Elsewhere in the article, they mention the suites coming to a/c flying longer routes of over 12hrs, so that pretty much excludes any a/c flying US-EU routes. There will definitely be no suites on 767s, and I'd venture to say A330s or existing 777s.

Originally Posted by Agremeister (Post 27072996)

I would think LAX-HND or LAX-PVG would almost certainly be the inaugural, and I would imagine that eventually every TPAC flight would have this product.

I imagine DL's plan is after replacing 747s with the A350, the rest of them would go to replacing A330s on TPAC routes, which would then be moved to TATL service to replace many of the 767s currently doing TATL service. Since the A330s have quite new D1 seats, this would constitute a product upgrade on those routes as well over the "coffin" seats on the 76.

As the 777s are also getting this new product, I doubt they get moved around too much. Perhaps some of the 777s currently doing Ex-NRT routes would again be moved onto current 747 routes freeing up A350s and A330s for lower demand routes.

Originally Posted by Bradhattan (Post 27075599)

I have to agree.....looks a little Spartan......almost Amtrak-like. But with doors, I don't have to see anyone's feet spread out on either side of the monitor......getting tired of passing notes to the gross folks in the first row of the front cabin with feet on the bulkhead.

Originally Posted by N639DL (Post 27076117)

34 763ERs were delivered in '96 or later. First 764 was 2000. Those will be around for a while and I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of modded J cabin (whether it be whole new seats or soft mods of the current product, like dividers or better padding).



Agreed.



NYT article said primarily 12 hours or longer, not only.



Yes.
No, as DL said the 777 will get it.
Makes sense.



I think the 350 will initially fly DTW-AMS to get crews familiarized with the aircraft before it starts flying long haul. Then eventually it will fly to Asia from DTW, expand to LAX-Asia/SYD.

Originally Posted by rylan (Post 27072088)

I see they also mentioned 32 J seats. Would've thought they'd have more on the 350.

Originally Posted by Longboater (Post 27072456)

Overall, I am a little surprised how small D1 cabins are now.

Originally Posted by 3Cforme (Post 27072600)

Delta happens to have 18 777s: 10 777-200ERs and 8 777-200LRs.

Originally Posted by SJC ORD LDR (Post 27075834)

What 787s?

Originally Posted by WWads (Post 27072743)

This looks really nice. Great job DL! ^

Originally Posted by iluvdoco (Post 27076038)

Did they just take the wind out of QR's sails? Can't imagine the QR Super J seats being that much better.

Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 27076165)

Isn't the tradeoff that each door must consume about an inch and a half of width?

Originally Posted by hard8 (Post 27075787)

So... with the new and refurbished 777s and new D1 Suites, will there be 3-4-3 in the Main Cabin?

Originally Posted by SJC ORD LDR (Post 27075834)

What 787s?

Originally Posted by iluvdoco (Post 27076038)

Wow, AusBT with the scoop and new photos!

Did they just take the wind out of QR's sails? Can't imagine the QR Super J seats being that much better.

http://www.ausbt.com.au/delta-air-li...n=home-flipper

Originally Posted by ConcordeBoy (Post 27076346)

Other way around: eight 77Es and ten 77Ls

The ones scheduled to arrive in a little over 3yrs.

Originally Posted by jimrpa (Post 27077316)

While these look nice, they do look very utilitarian. There are no embellishments or flourishes that say "luxury". For example, one of my cars is a Ford Focus Titanium. A very nice, well-equipped car, that is functional and comfortable. Nobody would ever confuse it for luxurious though. The interior reminds me of a nice VW Tiguan versus a Porsche Cayenne to put it into DL terms. Same car, one just has more wood trim and nicer leather trim and lighting details.

Perhaps Delta could give the cabin designers a "surprise and delight Porsche ride" :D

Originally Posted by jimrpa (Post 27077291)

I keep praying that they'll convert the A350 orders to 787s :D hope springs eternal :D

Originally Posted by akcae (Post 27077631)

Ha, that would be a feat.

Originally Posted by jimrpa (Post 27077316)

While these look nice, they do look very utilitarian. There are no embellishments or flourishes that say "luxury". For example, one of my cars is a Ford Focus Titanium. A very nice, well-equipped car, that is functional and comfortable. Nobody would ever confuse it for luxurious though. The interior reminds me of a nice VW Tiguan versus a Porsche Cayenne to put it into DL terms. Same car, one just has more wood trim and nicer leather trim and lighting details.

Originally Posted by WWads (Post 27077744)

Why? The A350 is the better aircraft by many measures. It has a longer range, and is wider. The 787 is terrible in 9 across economy, and the lack of window shades is rather ridiculous.

Originally Posted by pvn (Post 27077408)

It's business class, not international F, and it's a freaking mock-up animation. I mean, I know there are a lot of delicate snowflakes in this forum but a lot of people are really frowny today because there isn't enough burled walnut, the struggle is real, folks.

Originally Posted by DiverDave (Post 27077776)

I wonder how much floor space the new seats occupy vice the current D1 seats on the 777, 330, and even the 763.

David

Originally Posted by jimrpa (Post 27078064)

Right, I forgot, commercial rendering software hasn't advanced since the 1980s :rolleyes:

(see almost ANY movie made in the 21st century)

Originally Posted by hard8 (Post 27075787)

So... with the new and refurbished 777s and new D1 Suites, will there be 3-4-3 in the Main Cabin?

Originally Posted by Agremeister (Post 27078100)

Not sure where the Utilitarian idea is coming from, this image makes it look much less utilitarian than anything DL currently offer:

http://news.delta.com/sites/default/..._CAM22_NYT.jpg

Its certainly not as glitzy as an Emirates First Class suite, but frankly why would you want it to look like that?

Originally Posted by WWads (Post 27077744)

Why? The A350 is the better aircraft by many measures. It has a longer range, and is wider. The 787 is terrible in 9 across economy, and the lack of window shades is rather ridiculous.

Originally Posted by jimrpa (Post 27078064)

Right, I forgot, commercial rendering software hasn't advanced since the 1980s :rolleyes:

(see almost ANY movie made in the 21st century)

Originally Posted by WWads (Post 27077744)

The 787 is terrible in 9 across economy.