I have been wanting to fly on a 747 also, lucky me I live in Detroit. You mind PM or sharing the date and flight number when this is suppose to happen?

DL 281 (DTW-SEA) on 15 September:
This thread will be useful for domestic 747 or any other domestic widebody flights that FT users come across on the schedule:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...ve-thread.html

If security is top of mine, I'd stay at the Westin. There have been incidents at the off airport hotels.

DTW? You can take a mileage run to Shanghai any day of the week on a 744. ^ Might need a China visa to be allowed to board. . . .

There is a new Radisson that opens soon, I believe Sept 1. Was able to snipe a good deal there. Free airport shuttle.

Radisson website not accepting reservations until October 1. It's the former Metropolitan hotel which I believe was pretty much a dump (never stayed there), but it looked pretty bad from 94.

http://www.dbusiness.com/daily-news/...troit-Airport/

Years ago it was a Hilton and decent.....then went on a long slide down....

Sounds like they need all the time they can get for renovations!

The Westin for $200 is cheap. Ive stayed there a bunch of times and its was usually in the $350 range. Its easy to stay right in the A terminal and it has its own TSA line right in the hotel (subject to certain hours). Staying off property requires shuttle transfers and is a pain. There are plenty of restaurants right in the terminal to choose from or you can eat at the Westin and you can make a nice trip of it if you are into that kind of thing.

Yeah, and if you're staying at the Westin, you have the "right" to essentially get a gate pass to go airside even if you're not flying from DTW that day. This means that if you ahve a flight from DTW tomorrow, you can eat or shop in any of the airside places tonight or (if you have a membership) visit a SC (or two or three or four) or even play on the overhead train and in the psychedelic tunnel. [It's easier and faster if you go through TSA security in this case before the checkpoint in the Westin closes for the night.]

The Train! The Train! :D

Us passports should be OK without a visa AT PVG for 144hrs as long as you have a ticket for a flight departing PVG within that period.

Doesn't Transit Without Visa ALSO require you to depart to a DIFFERENT country than the one you arrived from? So you can't do U.S.-PVG-U.S. unless you have a Chinese visa.

Yes, you are correct. Could do DTW -> PVG -> HKG -> SEA -> DTW I suppose... Probally a lot more miles though!

WRONG. China must be transit, meaning that if you arrive nonstop from the USA, you must depart on a flight that first lands is a different country, where Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan are all considered to be separate countries for this purpose.

There's an excellent and extremely informative thread with wiki on this in the China destination forum.

Also, good luck on having DL allow you to board without a Chinese visa even if your itinerary is TWOV compliant.