Standby List Disparity
#16
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Thats why you don't SDS from a first class fare. You only SDC since you just need the flight to be F1 to get on. Unfortunately in this case it was F0, so you got put on standby... which as you saw and others mentioned, means you're below everyone else.
If you did end up clearing, you'd get a middle seat in C- since standby is after all upgrades.
If you did end up clearing, you'd get a middle seat in C- since standby is after all upgrades.
#17
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Speaking of the standby list, do non-revs routinely show up on the FC upgrade list now? There was one on the list (who cleared) on my MSY-DTW flight yesterday.
My DTW-CVG flight had a ton of pilots and FAs who were repositioning, so could they have all been on this list too and not cleared? That flight pushed with 15+ people on the list, and an empty FC seat next to me.
My DTW-CVG flight had a ton of pilots and FAs who were repositioning, so could they have all been on this list too and not cleared? That flight pushed with 15+ people on the list, and an empty FC seat next to me.
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In the OP's case, there were two upgrades on the day of departure, apparently done at the gate, even though DL wasn't willing to sell any FC tickets or permit any SDCs into FC. Could DL have set F0 in order to avoid exactly what the OP was trying to do, namely SDC onto a flight that was already (perhaps badly) oversold in coach? I'm surprised too that with 2 FC seats available, DL wasn't willing to let someone with a FC ticket SDC onto the flight.
#19
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Speaking of the standby list, do non-revs routinely show up on the FC upgrade list now? There was one on the list (who cleared) on my MSY-DTW flight yesterday.
My DTW-CVG flight had a ton of pilots and FAs who were repositioning, so could they have all been on this list too and not cleared? That flight pushed with 15+ people on the list, and an empty FC seat next to me.
My DTW-CVG flight had a ton of pilots and FAs who were repositioning, so could they have all been on this list too and not cleared? That flight pushed with 15+ people on the list, and an empty FC seat next to me.
Nonrevenue Positive Space (company business) customers will appear on the first class upgrade list if they requested an upgrade. Nonrevenue space available customers don't show up on the first class upgrade list--just the standby list.
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Again, this reflects the rule that you must first be confirmed onto the flight before you can be added to the upgrade list.
#21
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Haven't seen that all year! On almost every segment I've been on this year, the GAs have come down with tickets for the fortunate one who refused DL's FCM. I suppose fortune does favor the bold
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In the OP's case, there were two upgrades on the day of departure, apparently done at the gate, even though DL wasn't willing to sell any FC tickets or permit any SDCs into FC. Could DL have set F0 in order to avoid exactly what the OP was trying to do, namely SDC onto a flight that was already (perhaps badly) oversold in coach? I'm surprised too that with 2 FC seats available, DL wasn't willing to let someone with a FC ticket SDC onto the flight.
In the end, they offered me a $200 voucher for the bad info from the first agent, and I made it to my destination on the originally booked flight. Thanks everyone for your input and help.
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The flight was F0, so there was probably a misconnect. The GA did come on board and went back to talk to someone, but they refused the upgrade for whatever reason. The flight had a ton of repositioning crew onboard, so I'm guessing they made up the majority of the list.
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Fair enough. I've done 28 segments with DL this year all in F and only on one flight did I have the seat next to me left open: JFK to BOS, the last flight at about 2100, on Monday over Fourth of July week-end where there were maybe 50 people on the A319. I thought the days of empty seats on aircraft were long over, lol.
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If your fare class isn't available it SDS and not SDC. At least that's what I have been told many times including today. Had a PHX-MSP at 416, however completed work earlier. Made a mad dash to the airport.
I was told my fare class wasn't open so it was SDS. They had already cleared 5 people on standby an hour before boarding. I was then #1 and cleared. Later notice overall I was number 2 overall for SDS as a GM.
I was told my fare class wasn't open so it was SDS. They had already cleared 5 people on standby an hour before boarding. I was then #1 and cleared. Later notice overall I was number 2 overall for SDS as a GM.
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If your fare class isn't available it SDS and not SDC. At least that's what I have been told many times including today. Had a PHX-MSP at 416, however completed work earlier. Made a mad dash to the airport.
I was told my fare class wasn't open so it was SDS. They had already cleared 5 people on standby an hour before boarding. I was then #1 and cleared. Later notice overall I was number 2 overall for SDS as a GM.
I was told my fare class wasn't open so it was SDS. They had already cleared 5 people on standby an hour before boarding. I was then #1 and cleared. Later notice overall I was number 2 overall for SDS as a GM.