Delta: using FaceTime over WIFI caused issue with crew
Feb 7, 2018, 7:53 pm
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this
however, this sort of back-and-forth cussing and discussing will not cease as long as there are (1) people who think they can play their "rules are for idiots and don't apply to me because obviously in my view I'm not an idiot" and (2) people who assiduously look for, and then try to take advantage of, every sort of loophole that doesn't explicitly prohibit doing something they want to do
however, this sort of back-and-forth cussing and discussing will not cease as long as there are (1) people who think they can play their "rules are for idiots and don't apply to me because obviously in my view I'm not an idiot" and (2) people who assiduously look for, and then try to take advantage of, every sort of loophole that doesn't explicitly prohibit doing something they want to do
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Feb 7, 2018, 10:15 pm
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Anyone else notice that the new Gogo free messaging feature actually allows calls if you have WiFi calling enabled on your iPhone? I’ve received a few incoming calls in-flight and immediately iced them, but am still totally shocked that this apparent loophole wasn’t caught in QA.
Feb 8, 2018, 7:04 am
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Anyone else notice that the new Gogo free messaging feature actually allows calls if you have WiFi calling enabled on your iPhone? I’ve received a few incoming calls in-flight and immediately iced them, but am still totally shocked that this apparent loophole wasn’t caught in QA.
Feb 8, 2018, 7:32 am
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Revisiting this thread:
1. Ku offers ability to use voice service (att/vzw/tmo/sprint WiFi)
2. TOS do not explicitly state this - read it don’t debate
3. Crew announcement is about CELLULAR, which this is not (there are 300 apps which provide voice)
4. Crew told me “it’s a navigation safety issue” - utter BS
5. FA, purser, lead FA, and pilot couldn’t find wording in their MS windows phone package of turd
6. They also couldn’t answer/explain/defend whether it was safety or cust experience related - this is bad and undermines everything above
7. Back to apps - my home security system, video cameras, Alexa, and 297 other things provide two-way voice communication
so the story continues
1. Ku offers ability to use voice service (att/vzw/tmo/sprint WiFi)
2. TOS do not explicitly state this - read it don’t debate
3. Crew announcement is about CELLULAR, which this is not (there are 300 apps which provide voice)
4. Crew told me “it’s a navigation safety issue” - utter BS
5. FA, purser, lead FA, and pilot couldn’t find wording in their MS windows phone package of turd
6. They also couldn’t answer/explain/defend whether it was safety or cust experience related - this is bad and undermines everything above
7. Back to apps - my home security system, video cameras, Alexa, and 297 other things provide two-way voice communication
so the story continues
Then you said this....and it's clear you're just a troll.
People who have phone/video conversations on planes are rude and inconsiderate of their fellow passengers, whether strictly prohibited or not.
Don't forget that passengers must comply with all crew member instructions...so the FA's have that going for them...which is nice.
Feb 8, 2018, 1:17 pm
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The main reason you are facetiming with someone is the exact same reason you would try to call them normally. If you only saw video of them with no audio... would you do it? What if facetime was coming through fine on audio but the video was crapping out? Then you'd probably be fine with it.
Feb 8, 2018, 2:01 pm
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Man the lines to the lav's are going to be horrible if everyone starts doing this .... on the plus side they are roughly the size of a phone booth, anyone remember those?
Feb 8, 2018, 2:51 pm
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Yes. Total silence. That's what I'm going for. If the only sounds people could make are conversations with their seatmates - at least that's less noise than if a whole world opened up for people to also talk to out-of-plane others.
I don't even want to hear your stupid phone calls in the Sky Club.
Sometimes I have to take a work call, or make a personal call while traveling, and I do it so hushed, I make such an effort to be inaudible, to crouch in a corner, to cover my mouth to muffle the sound.... but do you think the average lame business traveler with a giant belly and pleated khakis or a saggy suit bothers to be this considerate? No. Half of them are as loud as can be, and some of them go so far as to PACE AROUND THE ENTIRE LOUNGE OR TERMINAL, meaning, that no matter how many times I get up and walk away from you and your stupid call, I can't get away. Some phone call loud talker will just follow me.
Learn to use your email. Speak faster. Be more precise. Your call surely doesn't need to be as long as it is.
I don't even want to hear your stupid phone calls in the Sky Club.
Sometimes I have to take a work call, or make a personal call while traveling, and I do it so hushed, I make such an effort to be inaudible, to crouch in a corner, to cover my mouth to muffle the sound.... but do you think the average lame business traveler with a giant belly and pleated khakis or a saggy suit bothers to be this considerate? No. Half of them are as loud as can be, and some of them go so far as to PACE AROUND THE ENTIRE LOUNGE OR TERMINAL, meaning, that no matter how many times I get up and walk away from you and your stupid call, I can't get away. Some phone call loud talker will just follow me.
Learn to use your email. Speak faster. Be more precise. Your call surely doesn't need to be as long as it is.
Feb 8, 2018, 3:54 pm
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Feb 8, 2018, 4:21 pm
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Feb 8, 2018, 6:30 pm
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From https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...ght-wi-fi.html
Voice service is not permitted nor supported.
Feb 8, 2018, 8:35 pm
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Yes. Total silence. That's what I'm going for. If the only sounds people could make are conversations with their seatmates - at least that's less noise than if a whole world opened up for people to also talk to out-of-plane others.
I don't even want to hear your stupid phone calls in the Sky Club.
Sometimes I have to take a work call, or make a personal call while traveling, and I do it so hushed, I make such an effort to be inaudible, to crouch in a corner, to cover my mouth to muffle the sound.... but do you think the average lame business traveler with a giant belly and pleated khakis or a saggy suit bothers to be this considerate? No. Half of them are as loud as can be, and some of them go so far as to PACE AROUND THE ENTIRE LOUNGE OR TERMINAL, meaning, that no matter how many times I get up and walk away from you and your stupid call, I can't get away. Some phone call loud talker will just follow me.
Learn to use your email. Speak faster. Be more precise. Your call surely doesn't need to be as long as it is.
I don't even want to hear your stupid phone calls in the Sky Club.
Sometimes I have to take a work call, or make a personal call while traveling, and I do it so hushed, I make such an effort to be inaudible, to crouch in a corner, to cover my mouth to muffle the sound.... but do you think the average lame business traveler with a giant belly and pleated khakis or a saggy suit bothers to be this considerate? No. Half of them are as loud as can be, and some of them go so far as to PACE AROUND THE ENTIRE LOUNGE OR TERMINAL, meaning, that no matter how many times I get up and walk away from you and your stupid call, I can't get away. Some phone call loud talker will just follow me.
Learn to use your email. Speak faster. Be more precise. Your call surely doesn't need to be as long as it is.
I love everything about this post. It should be enlarged, printed, framed and placed everywhere a DL pax might see it.
Feb 9, 2018, 7:45 am
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The day phone calls (and yes facetime is the same thing, maybe worse) on airplanes is the day I retire.
I do agree they need to firm up the language so the inconsiderate jerks don't have a loophole.
I do agree they need to firm up the language so the inconsiderate jerks don't have a loophole.
Feb 9, 2018, 8:19 am
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Inconsiderate jerks ("The rules don't apply to me.. I am the center of the universe" types) will always find a loophole... even if they are the only ones who can see it.