Lady jumps from MSY-LAX flight this morning
May 23, 2016, 6:58 pm
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You're telling me I can go book MCO-JFK tomorrow, drop my bag off, leave the airport, and it will be loaded onto the aircraft? Prove it. Ever since PA 103 a positive match with passenger and luggage is kind of a big deal.
May 23, 2016, 8:02 pm
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That really surprised me because I was rerouted in an IROPS situation a couple of months ago and could see them pulling my bags from the plane *while* the gate agent was issuing my new ticket.
May 23, 2016, 8:05 pm
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"Ladies and gentlemen, there are two emergency exits at the front of the plane. The door through which you entered...and through which that lady just left, and the galley service door to your right."
May 23, 2016, 8:06 pm
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A couple of weeks ago, I took a VDB on a PDX-MSP-RIC and was rebooked on PDX-ATL-RIC a couple of hours later. To be clear, they announced on the overhead that they were looking for volunteers and I stepped right up. I figured that as long as I got to Richmond on that calendar day, I could be flexible. So they reissued my ticket and I specifically asked whether my bags would be pulled off of the original flight so that they would travel with me, and the gate agent said "No, they will go out on this flight and be waiting for you at the baggage office in Richmond."
That really surprised me because I was rerouted in an IROPS situation a couple of months ago and could see them pulling my bags from the plane *while* the gate agent was issuing my new ticket.
That really surprised me because I was rerouted in an IROPS situation a couple of months ago and could see them pulling my bags from the plane *while* the gate agent was issuing my new ticket.
May 23, 2016, 8:13 pm
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Maybe it's all part of the TSA's security "plan" - "If we don't know what we're doing, then there's no chance that anyone else will figure it out!"
May 23, 2016, 8:14 pm
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Positive bag matching ended a long time ago.
In 2011, DoT said:
https://www.regulations.gov/contentS...ontentType=pdf (page 33)
In 2011, DoT said:
As for commenters' concerns with reconciling passenger manifests and dealing with the checked baggage of passengers who choose to deplane, we are not requiring airlines to re-board a passenger who chooses to deplane and therefore misses a flight, or to remove the checked baggage of a passenger that has deplaned. DHS/TSA also doesn’t require that passenger’s checked baggage be removed if the passenger is no longer on that flight. We encourage airlines to announce to passengers that they are deplaning at their own risk and that the flight could depart at any time without them if this is the case.
May 23, 2016, 8:17 pm
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Positive bag matching ended a long time ago.
In 2011, DoT said:
https://www.regulations.gov/contentS...ontentType=pdf (page 33)
In 2011, DoT said:
https://www.regulations.gov/contentS...ontentType=pdf (page 33)
Thanks
May 23, 2016, 8:20 pm
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FWIW - I am really doubting OP's story... this would be big news. Something along the lines of...
"A passenger opens a door jumps out of a plane... runs down the tarmac and vanishes. The airport went on lock down until they could determine if this was a terrorist event. The plane returned to the gate where all passengers were subject to rescreening and the plane was searched. after being cleared, the remaining passengers were allowed to reboard and the flight landed 4+ hours late. The passenger was arrested, charged with trespassing and is currently being questioned."
Instead, we get...
Lady opens door on commercial airliner, leaps 20 feet to the tarmac and runs away. Flight crew shrugs their shoulders, re closes the door and left a few minutes later. Oh - and her bags were left on the plane!
No news anywhere. Un huh.
May 23, 2016, 9:09 pm
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+1 Nice one.
Exactly.
FWIW - I am really doubting OP's story... this would be big news. Something along the lines of...
"A passenger opens a door jumps out of a plane... runs down the tarmac and vanishes. The airport went on lock down until they could determine if this was a terrorist event. The plane returned to the gate where all passengers were subject to rescreening and the plane was searched. after being cleared, the remaining passengers were allowed to reboard and the flight landed 4+ hours late. The passenger was arrested, charged with trespassing and is currently being questioned."
Instead, we get...
Lady opens door on commercial airliner, leaps 20 feet to the tarmac and runs away. Flight crew shrugs their shoulders, re closes the door and left a few minutes later. Oh - and her bags were left on the plane!
No news anywhere. Un huh.
Exactly.
FWIW - I am really doubting OP's story... this would be big news. Something along the lines of...
"A passenger opens a door jumps out of a plane... runs down the tarmac and vanishes. The airport went on lock down until they could determine if this was a terrorist event. The plane returned to the gate where all passengers were subject to rescreening and the plane was searched. after being cleared, the remaining passengers were allowed to reboard and the flight landed 4+ hours late. The passenger was arrested, charged with trespassing and is currently being questioned."
Instead, we get...
Lady opens door on commercial airliner, leaps 20 feet to the tarmac and runs away. Flight crew shrugs their shoulders, re closes the door and left a few minutes later. Oh - and her bags were left on the plane!
No news anywhere. Un huh.
May 23, 2016, 10:16 pm
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Would the door not be closed and armed before the jetway is moved back? The woman neither twisted nor broke any ankles, knees, or hips? The plane did happen to leave 20 minutes late for whatever reason, but this woman just happened to know how to open, and possibly unarm, the main door of an A319 fast enough to get away. Silly NonRevs.
Last edited by B752; May 23, 2016 at 10:21 pm
May 23, 2016, 11:07 pm
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Quick research (not comprehensive) consisting of reading the actual CFR on baggage security (no mention of PPBM) and some reading of old FT threads would seem to indicate that the requirement ended in about 2003 when they instituted 100% screening of passenger baggage (not all cargo). But, just because it ended 13 years ago doesn't mean that everyone knows about it - that's what make urban myths so entertaining.
May 23, 2016, 11:49 pm
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I've flown without my bags matching the flight I was on a few times. Most recently I was IDBed on an ATL-MGM flight about a year ago. I got a rental car and drove from Atlanta to Montgomery but my bags (all 4 of them) flew on the ATL-MGM flight and I had to go to MGM to pick them up. In fact, DL would not pull them off the plane and deliver them to bag claim at ATL. I wasn't upset by the this; I didn't care if they flew to MGM or if I had to pick them up in ATL as long as I knew where they were.