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Old Apr 27, 2018, 5:25 pm
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Originally Posted by IWontRegretThis
I just recently flew as Swiss CS300 in Econ - Exit row, man it was a NICE plane. Would replace the E175 as my fav non-widebody, esp with a 1-2 FC *crosses fingers*
I don't think there's any chance of 1-2 FC
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Old Apr 27, 2018, 5:47 pm
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
I don't think there's any chance of 1-2 FC
Yup. Cabin cross section is about 6" wider than an MD 90. Should be pretty comfortable in F configured 2-2.
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Old Apr 27, 2018, 7:33 pm
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What's the range on these things? Could see there being a play here for RDU on longer, thinner routes (SEA, LAX, and SLC, perhaps even MSP, AUS, and a new couple of routes if range allows).

Could potentially allow them to downgauge but add frequency and also open new routes
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Old Apr 28, 2018, 6:55 am
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Bombardier claims range to YVR, Cabo, and Quito from NYC.

https://commercialaircraft.bombardie...abilities.html

I believe it's mentioned up-thread that Delta needs to keep average stage length under 1,000 miles or pay a surcharge to BBD.
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Old Apr 28, 2018, 10:16 am
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme
Bombardier claims range to YVR, Cabo, and Quito from NYC.

https://commercialaircraft.bombardie...abilities.html

I believe it's mentioned up-thread that Delta needs to keep average stage length under 1,000 miles or pay a surcharge to BBD.
I would be very surprised if DL had to pay that surcharge in the end. I could easily see it being waived.
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Old Apr 28, 2018, 10:31 am
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Originally Posted by WWads
I would be very surprised if DL had to pay that surcharge in the end. I could easily see it being waived.
It might be waived if that additional range leads to DL buying more jets. But I don't see why Bombardier would just give it away for free with nothing in return. They still are a for-profit business.
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Old Apr 28, 2018, 11:02 am
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
It might be waived if that additional range leads to DL buying more jets. But I don't see why Bombardier would just give it away for free with nothing in return. They still are a for-profit business.
That’s my point.
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Old Apr 28, 2018, 2:37 pm
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme
Bombardier claims range to YVR, Cabo, and Quito from NYC.

https://commercialaircraft.bombardie...abilities.html

I believe it's mentioned up-thread that Delta needs to keep average stage length under 1,000 miles or pay a surcharge to BBD.
At 2,128nm, 2,028nm, and 2,450nm each, they are well within the 3,100 nm range of the CS100. If the 1,000 mile stage length exists, I think DL will eventually strike a deal with Bombardier to drop it.
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Old Apr 28, 2018, 4:49 pm
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I'm hoping Bombardier just pays the exit penalty to Airbus. They don't need them anymore since the tariff was dropped. The C Seies is a great plane and will be just fine without Airbus.
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Old Apr 28, 2018, 4:59 pm
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Originally Posted by readywhenyouare
I'm hoping Bombardier just pays the exit penalty to Airbus. They don't need them anymore since the tariff was dropped. The C Seies is a great plane and will be just fine without Airbus.
Come on. I'm a Montreal native and huge supporter of Bombardier. But BBD has managed to sell exactly zero C-Series planes in 2018, and only 12 planes in 2017. They only got the DL deal because they sold each of those planes below cost (hard to make money that way). Bombardier wouldn't even be operating today if the govt didn't give them emergency loans.

The facts do not support your claim. I mean, not even close.
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Old Apr 28, 2018, 5:19 pm
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
Come on. I'm a Montreal native and huge supporter of Bombardier. But BBD has managed to sell exactly zero C-Series planes in 2018, and only 12 planes in 2017. They only got the DL deal because they sold each of those planes below cost (hard to make money that way). Bombardier wouldn't even be operating today if the govt didn't give them emergency loans.

The facts do not support your claim. I mean, not even close.
If Bombardier is insolvent then they should have been put up for sale to the highest bidder. Anything should be considered fraud by the shareholders.
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Old Jul 10, 2018, 12:12 pm
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The C-Series program has officially been renamed the A220-100 and A220-300.

https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/pres...-a220-300.html
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Old Jul 10, 2018, 2:22 pm
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Originally Posted by MCO Flyer
The C-Series program has officially been renamed the A220-100 and A220-300.

https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/pres...-a220-300.html
As an aside....didn't Boeing just buy 80% of Embraer?
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Old Jul 10, 2018, 2:28 pm
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Originally Posted by readywhenyouare


If Bombardier is insolvent then they should have been put up for sale to the highest bidder. Anything should be considered fraud by the shareholders.
Yeah! Just like when Ford was all allowed to go under and sold off to Toyota!
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Old Jul 10, 2018, 2:39 pm
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Originally Posted by kop84
Yeah! Just like when Ford was all allowed to go under and sold off to Toyota!
What in the world are you talking about? The government bailed out GM, not Ford. And I'm on record here saying GM should have been allowed to fail.
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