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Old Apr 27, 2016, 8:06 am
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Skymiles mileage upgrade awards on Air France codeshares....EVER available?

I fly frequently between the US and Africa on government fares (Y, from time to time), usually on Delta codeshares operated by Air France. It seems like there is zero upgrade inventory on any of these flights when attempting to do a mileage upgrade award. Is this the norm?
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Old Apr 27, 2016, 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by kahuna613
I fly frequently between the US and Africa on government fares (Y, from time to time), usually on Delta codeshares operated by Air France. It seems like there is zero upgrade inventory on any of these flights when attempting to do a mileage upgrade award. Is this the norm?
IIRC this requires O (low business class award inventory) class on AF, but since you have a Y fare, compare the DL rules for upgrades with miles to the SkyTeam upgrade award program. Make sure that you're following the rules about codeshares, ticket stock, etc. Also, the presence of the AF Premium Economy cabin might be an issue if only a one class upgrade is permitted.

For AF availability to DL, O class is rare but should sometimes be available. You need to keep calling, especially early (when are your tickets issued?) and late.

You might be able to upgrade AF flights at the airport. Ask.
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Old May 3, 2016, 8:24 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
IIRC this requires O (low business class award inventory) class on AF, but since you have a Y fare, compare the DL rules for upgrades with miles to the SkyTeam upgrade award program. Make sure that you're following the rules about codeshares, ticket stock, etc. Also, the presence of the AF Premium Economy cabin might be an issue if only a one class upgrade is permitted.

For AF availability to DL, O class is rare but should sometimes be available. You need to keep calling, especially early (when are your tickets issued?) and late.

You might be able to upgrade AF flights at the airport. Ask.
After a frustrating amount of time wasted on the phone with Delta today, it has come to my attention that upgrades on Air France with skymiles are only possible on flights between the US and Paris. Paris to other parts of the world including Africa are not possible. Can anyone confirm this is true for Skyteam Y-fare upgrade program as well? I can find no mention of the Skyteam upgrade program on Delta's site anymore (other than to call Skymiles for more information).
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Old May 3, 2016, 11:03 pm
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After a frustrating amount of time wasted on the phone with Delta today, it has come to my attention that upgrades on Air France with skymiles are only possible on flights between the US and Paris. Paris to other parts of the world including Africa are not possible.
That has been documented policy for some years.

As for the old SkyTeam Y-fare mileage upgrade plan, the Internet Archive finds this from late 2015. It doesn't speak to geographic exclusions for AF.

https://web.archive.org/web/20151009...grade-Program/
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Old May 4, 2016, 7:37 am
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Does Delta even participate in the Skyteam Y-fare upgrade program anymore? It has been removed from the Medallion benefits page.
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