DL suspending ATL-BRU for the long term
Apr 2, 2016, 9:19 am
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Apr 2, 2016, 9:54 am
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Note that many DL and other airlines' major hub airports have been shifting toward more centralized screening. That centralizes a bottleneck.
Apr 2, 2016, 10:03 am
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For some airports which I've used, there is indeed some moving of the bottleneck; but it has also often created another bottleneck without eliminating the pre-existing bottleneck that was where the most substantial bottleneck already existed to go from airport entrance to airside.
Note that many DL and other airlines' major hub airports have been shifting toward more centralized screening. That centralizes a bottleneck.
Note that many DL and other airlines' major hub airports have been shifting toward more centralized screening. That centralizes a bottleneck.
Apr 2, 2016, 10:10 am
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The AMS centralization -- including dealing with DL's ridiculous security contractors who have also become more centralized too -- has turned me off from AMS-US flying. DL will be seeing me less on its AMS-US flights because of this, even as AMS had already become more of a drag ever since the taxi times there became some of the worst in Europe for my TATL trips.
Apr 2, 2016, 1:00 pm
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Apr 2, 2016, 3:33 pm
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Speculation. While the chance of dying in a car accident is higher in a vacuum than dying in a terrorist attack in Belgium, you have no idea what the specific risk of a terror attack is for April 21 to 27 in Brussels. This risk calculation would shift dramatically for example if a terrorist cell was already scoping out your planned accommodation in Brussels for an attack over the next month or so - which we have no knowledge of. But our lack of knowledge does not mean it's not happening.
I'm not saying anyone should shift their travel plans based on factors they don't know but the general statistical calculation doesn't always hold as much value as people think. Prior to January 30th 1933 a Jew in Germany was more likely to die in a household accident than to be killed by agents of the state. That statistical calculation shifted dramatically because of *specific* dynamic circumstances. Accidents are accidents, political violence is targeted and subject to dramatic and at times sudden increases on behest of those eager to perpetrate it.
I'm not saying anyone should shift their travel plans based on factors they don't know but the general statistical calculation doesn't always hold as much value as people think. Prior to January 30th 1933 a Jew in Germany was more likely to die in a household accident than to be killed by agents of the state. That statistical calculation shifted dramatically because of *specific* dynamic circumstances. Accidents are accidents, political violence is targeted and subject to dramatic and at times sudden increases on behest of those eager to perpetrate it.
Next week, I'll be driving a Porsche 911 at extreme speeds in Bavaria all week and mountaineering in the alps.
I don't worry about terrorists, nor does my family.
TFD
Apr 2, 2016, 4:11 pm
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Apr 2, 2016, 4:31 pm
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I know they mentioned keeping the New-York route open... but I'd prefer a different connecting city.
Apr 2, 2016, 4:36 pm
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My upcoming itinerary BRU-ATL is still showing confirmed... current DL elite line holds are long so I will try to call tomorrow to get rebooked BRU-JFK + connections. In my experience (maybe in part due to being elite) DL has been extremely flexible and good to me in irrops situations, allowing change of origin airport, etc. if you would prefer to fly out of CDG or AMS (or another European gateway) instead. Once the official cancellations hit your itinerary you will probably be given the option of selecting an alternate route with BRU-JFK being the first flight, but you can call and ask for what you want.
Apr 2, 2016, 5:01 pm
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Personally if time were not an issue for someone and one had another Skyteam program, I would ask to be FIM'd onto something via LHR or FRA with BA or LH and then essentially get double miles.
Or the most expedient thing would just be to fly via JFK,
Or the most expedient thing would just be to fly via JFK,
Apr 2, 2016, 9:06 pm
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DL isn't going to put you on a non-DL/Skyteam flight when they still have JFK-BRU, and partners can fly you from LHR/CDG/AMS. No reason for them to toss you onto BA or LH.
Apr 2, 2016, 9:20 pm
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The couple of times I'd had flight canceled far enough ahead of time to do something about it (these were "spot cancelations" -- just one days flight canceled, not the whole service) Delta was very accommodating about switching the flight (leaving from FRA instead of MUC, etc). But I'm sure there is a mileage limit -- departing from WAW or IST instead of BRU would probably be a harder sell 
Apr 3, 2016, 3:34 am
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flyerCO, while in normal circumstances you might be correct, in this circumstance it is dependent on date. If they are collapsing two flights into one essentially, this may mean that on certain dates they might NOT be able to accomodate you on the DL flight, in which case they will of course insist first on a ST flight, but then again maybe not. It also has to do with your status.
Says someone who not so long ago was FIM'd onto an IB/BA codeshare rather than an AF/KL deal without me even asking them to do so.
Says someone who not so long ago was FIM'd onto an IB/BA codeshare rather than an AF/KL deal without me even asking them to do so.
Apr 3, 2016, 6:02 am
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I called today and rebooked my itineraries onto BRU-JFK flights, no problem (even though they weren't officially cancelled on the reservation yet). Whether or not those JFK flights will actually be happening and the airport operating with some reasonable reliability in 3-4 weeks I'm not sure, but in that case I will take the train to CDG or AMS and fly from there.
Apr 3, 2016, 6:04 am
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I would recommend calling and rebooking ASAP, because once the flights officially cancel in the system and other passengers are automatically rebooked there will be a sudden drop in availability and you could potentially have a lot fewer options.