Aug 9, 2016, 11:00 pm
Last edit by: LoganFlyer
Delta's Operational move from T5 to T2/3 at LAX:
Delta has moved to: T2 and T3 with eventual connector to TBIT (note: there is currently only airside bus service to stay securely between T2 & T3, the walking connector has not been built yet.)
Where to check bags: As of January 13, 2020, non-Sky Priority customers must check their bag(s) at the terminal their flight departs from, unless their flight departs from TBIT, in which case, they must check their bag at Terminal 2. Sky priority customers can check their bag at either terminal. See this link for more information.
Date(s) of move: May 12, 2017 - May 17, 2017
Here is a helpful chart from Delta which covers all Domestic / Int'l. transfer combos (AND TOTAL TRANSFER TIMES) between T2, T3 & TBIT.
New Bus Routes will help with connections:
- Circular Airfield Bus between TBIT, T2 and T3
- Airfield Bus between T2 and T3
Bus Map
Will there be a SkyClub: Yes, there is one in each terminal. Virgin Atlantic Clubhouse will remain.
- The SkyClub in T2 opened on May 20th (Former AC Maple Leaf Lounge)
pix in post 1058
- The SkyClub in T3 opened on May 24th (Former VX Loft)
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...d-updates.html
Where Will The Delta One Check In Lounge Be Located:
In T2, there is a small Delta One seating area with refreshments. An agent will escort you from the check in/lounge area through a back pathway up stairs to TSA precheck. Its a shorter walk to check-in at SkyPriority and easier if you have a carry on and don't want to drag it up a flight of stairs. 11/3/17)
Airlines joining DL in T2/3 for landside and departures:
- AeroMexico (T2)
- Virgin Atlantic (T2)
- WestJet (T3)
Landside T2 only, departures from TBIT:
- Virgin Australia
- Volaris
Landside T3 only, departures from TBIT:
- Avianca/Taca
- Copa (effective April 7)
- InterJet
Will there be secure links between T2-T3 and TBIT: Yes, the final plan is to let pax walk between all airside.
External Links:
Press Release: http://news.delta.com/delta-relocate...rough-19b-plan
Rough link showing T2/3 connector:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmrq1UEAEUiF3.jpg
Proposed schedule from LAWA presentation:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmMDLVUAA1vNM.jpg
Delta fact sheet:
http://www.lawa.org/uploadedFiles/LA...ease-Delta.pdf
Delta's LAX destination page featuring 'Delta Sky Way at LAX':
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-terminal.html
Delta has moved to: T2 and T3 with eventual connector to TBIT (note: there is currently only airside bus service to stay securely between T2 & T3, the walking connector has not been built yet.)
Where to check bags: As of January 13, 2020, non-Sky Priority customers must check their bag(s) at the terminal their flight departs from, unless their flight departs from TBIT, in which case, they must check their bag at Terminal 2. Sky priority customers can check their bag at either terminal. See this link for more information.
Date(s) of move: May 12, 2017 - May 17, 2017
Here is a helpful chart from Delta which covers all Domestic / Int'l. transfer combos (AND TOTAL TRANSFER TIMES) between T2, T3 & TBIT.
New Bus Routes will help with connections:
- Circular Airfield Bus between TBIT, T2 and T3
- Airfield Bus between T2 and T3
Bus Map
Will there be a SkyClub: Yes, there is one in each terminal. Virgin Atlantic Clubhouse will remain.
- The SkyClub in T2 opened on May 20th (Former AC Maple Leaf Lounge)
pix in post 1058
- The SkyClub in T3 opened on May 24th (Former VX Loft)
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...d-updates.html
Where Will The Delta One Check In Lounge Be Located:
Delta will temporarily offer dedicated check-in space in Terminal 2 (first door closest to T1) while a long-term Delta One experience is finalized.
Airlines joining DL in T2/3 for landside and departures:
- AeroMexico (T2)
- Virgin Atlantic (T2)
- WestJet (T3)
Landside T2 only, departures from TBIT:
- Virgin Australia
- Volaris
Landside T3 only, departures from TBIT:
- Avianca/Taca
- Copa (effective April 7)
- InterJet
Will there be secure links between T2-T3 and TBIT: Yes, the final plan is to let pax walk between all airside.
External Links:
Press Release: http://news.delta.com/delta-relocate...rough-19b-plan
Rough link showing T2/3 connector:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmrq1UEAEUiF3.jpg
Proposed schedule from LAWA presentation:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmMDLVUAA1vNM.jpg
Delta fact sheet:
http://www.lawa.org/uploadedFiles/LA...ease-Delta.pdf
Delta's LAX destination page featuring 'Delta Sky Way at LAX':
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-terminal.html
LAX 2017 Terminal Move: The Definitive Thread
May 17, 2017, 10:23 am
#676
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Well, I checked in with the delta staff on the opposite side to the lounge, they asked me if I wanted to access virgin lounge. Ofcourse I said yes. Maybe it's exception during the move, or little known secret I just exposed. Didn't ask how or why, just took my voucher and went in.
Hope this helps others, not much else I can say. I just followed the regular process and asked around, that led me in there
Hope this helps others, not much else I can say. I just followed the regular process and asked around, that led me in there
May 17, 2017, 10:24 am
#677
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Only pax on a same-day nonstop DL or VS flight from the US to UK are supposed to get access. J pax or DL Gold or higher status (originally, I though only Plat or higher, but now I see DL Gold's have access too). VS is not a Skyteam member, so the normal Skyteam rules do not apply. Pax on one of the 3 daily VS LAX-LHR nonstop's, or connecting though a DL US hub to UK nonstop flight would qualify.
May 17, 2017, 11:35 am
#679
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It was more having seen T3, figured it'd be pretty impossible for T2 not to be better. But yeah, the pictures more than confirmed that
May 17, 2017, 3:11 pm
#680
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Not based on some of the airlines I fly - and that includes other U.S. carriers.
The world was a different place 20 years ago. I won't point out historical events, but volume of pax, today's tech requirements, don't recall the internet being much of anything 20 years ago, and DEN is not LAX.
But thanks so much for your thoughts. Have a great day.
May 17, 2017, 4:03 pm
#681
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I am flying JFK to LAX tomorrow, and connecting at LAX to a flight that appears to leave from T3 (and I expect to arrive at T2), and hope to have time for a shower at T2 (DL stated that there's showering facilities there). Life's been fairly busy lately but will try to take notes and get the information posted soon after the trip. It's been so busy that when I booked this trip I had completely forgotten about the terminal moves at LAX.
At least there should be fewer taxiway delays at T2/T3. Much of the delays of waiting for a gate, or waiting to leave a gate, was due to the south side terminals being so close together. T2 and T3 are more spread apart and there will likely be far less need to wait for a blocked taxiway to clear, and that will be an improvement, at least, vs. waiting 45 min after arrival to pull into a gate.
At least there should be fewer taxiway delays at T2/T3. Much of the delays of waiting for a gate, or waiting to leave a gate, was due to the south side terminals being so close together. T2 and T3 are more spread apart and there will likely be far less need to wait for a blocked taxiway to clear, and that will be an improvement, at least, vs. waiting 45 min after arrival to pull into a gate.
May 17, 2017, 4:06 pm
#682
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At least there should be fewer taxiway delays at T2/T3. Much of the delays of waiting for a gate, or waiting to leave a gate, was due to the south side terminals being so close together. T2 and T3 are more spread apart and there will likely be far less need to wait for a blocked taxiway to clear, and that will be an improvement, at least, vs. waiting 45 min after arrival to pull into a gate.
Think of the hassle that would have been saved if DL had just moved to T2 rather than making NW move to T5 (yes, I know, not enough gates...)
May 17, 2017, 5:48 pm
#684
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Not based on some of the airlines I fly - and that includes other U.S. carriers.
The world was a different place 20 years ago. I won't point out historical events, but volume of pax, today's tech requirements, don't recall the internet being much of anything 20 years ago, and DEN is not LAX.
The world was a different place 20 years ago. I won't point out historical events, but volume of pax, today's tech requirements, don't recall the internet being much of anything 20 years ago, and DEN is not LAX.
May 17, 2017, 6:03 pm
#685
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I am flying JFK to LAX tomorrow, and connecting at LAX to a flight that appears to leave from T3 (and I expect to arrive at T2), and hope to have time for a shower at T2 (DL stated that there's showering facilities there). Life's been fairly busy lately but will try to take notes and get the information posted soon after the trip. It's been so busy that when I booked this trip I had completely forgotten about the terminal moves at LAX.
At least there should be fewer taxiway delays at T2/T3. Much of the delays of waiting for a gate, or waiting to leave a gate, was due to the south side terminals being so close together. T2 and T3 are more spread apart and there will likely be far less need to wait for a blocked taxiway to clear, and that will be an improvement, at least, vs. waiting 45 min after arrival to pull into a gate.
At least there should be fewer taxiway delays at T2/T3. Much of the delays of waiting for a gate, or waiting to leave a gate, was due to the south side terminals being so close together. T2 and T3 are more spread apart and there will likely be far less need to wait for a blocked taxiway to clear, and that will be an improvement, at least, vs. waiting 45 min after arrival to pull into a gate.
May 17, 2017, 6:31 pm
#687
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May 17, 2017, 6:33 pm
#688
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Different, but much more massive and more at risk of glitches. Every airline had to move many miles to a completely new location in one night. The hardest part for DL at LAX was setting up the IT. Everything else was comparatively easy. Thinking no other airline could pull this off is ridiculously prideful.
The mount of hubris is so palpable. This is the same airline that just had two of the largest operational meltdowns in U.S. history. You're right, DEN isn't LAX. It was much greater.
The mount of hubris is so palpable. This is the same airline that just had two of the largest operational meltdowns in U.S. history. You're right, DEN isn't LAX. It was much greater.
I do think most other airlines could indeed have pulled it off, except probably UA, whose management struggles mightily to handle their own normal daily operations.
May 17, 2017, 7:51 pm
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And to be clear, you don't know me. You don't know where I'm from, who I fly or what my experiences have been. I would never accuse you of hubris.
And I wrote this closing line upthread with the best of intentions.
I don't think we're suggesting that no other airline could pull this off. I think we're saying that DL pulled it off particularly well. It's generally agreed that DL is very good at operations (year after year they have the best operational performance numbers) so it's not really surprising.
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May 17, 2017, 10:03 pm
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