Did everyone see China Eastern has now moved to Group 1
Noticed this on Delta.com this morning as I was reminding myself which MU fare classes get full mileage credit. This is very helpful for travel to/within China.
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_.../airlines.html |
That is a great news if a lot of booking class in economy is available. More choice for run and prob award
GOL is also new group 1!! |
This is great news.
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News to me, thanks for the post!
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Did everyone see China Eastern has now moved to Group 1
Wow! No, I hadn't!
My morning ritual is, to make coffee, check FlyerTalk, feed the cats, have some cereal, brush my teeth, check the news headlines, THEN check Delta's partner chart for updates!!! ;) :eek: :D |
Excellent news. This provides lots of interesting alternatives...
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Originally Posted by PayItForward
(Post 25892613)
Excellent news. This provides lots of interesting alternatives...
http://thedesignair.net/2015/02/04/c...ded-advantage/ Total game changer for sure. MU flies the B773 from JFK to PVG and then onto points into South East Asia, like Singapore. The business class fare from JFK to SIN on MU is only $3600.00. The best Delta BE fare is $5600.00. With MU, brand new B773 planes with a 1-2-1 direct aisle access cabin, Delta you get a 777 and then onto an old and outdated B767-300. I think its time to try MU to Singapore. No more waiting and playing the GUC gate upgrade game. They also have family couch seats in economy. Something delta doesnt offer. |
Originally Posted by DL2SXM
(Post 25893575)
They also have family couch seats in economy. Something delta doesnt offer.
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China Eastern often has some amazing fares based out of Tokyo, so this is definitely great news.
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This is potentially great news, but I'd be interested to hear more about recent MU TPAC in coach if anyone's done it.
I had to send 9 people to SIN a few months ago and looked at China Eastern, but ended up on China Southern, after reading some unfavorable reviews and hearing some negative stories about China Eastern. They were all pretty happy - with a newish 777 JFK-CAN. |
Originally Posted by davetravels
(Post 25892595)
Wow! No, I hadn't!
My morning ritual is, to make coffee, check FlyerTalk, feed the cats, have some cereal, brush my teeth, check the news headlines, THEN check Delta's partner chart for updates!!! ;) :eek: :D |
Now if only they would restore KE to Group 1. It's shameful that a founding member of SkyTeam is listed lower than such prestigious names as Aeroflot, Czech, Xiamen, and TAROM...
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Took another look at the partner charts and those really cheap fares are in fare classes not listed in the table so 0 MQM, MQD, SkyMiles...
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I thought T was the lowest fare bucket for MU?
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Originally Posted by belfordrocks
(Post 25895723)
I thought T was the lowest fare bucket for MU?
http://en.ceair.com/easternmiles/hkl...725_11796.html |
Huh, I tried doing a few dummy bookings from North America to Shanghai and the lowest fare bucket I could get was T. Maybe the even lower ones are reserved for intra-Asia or other routes.
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Originally Posted by remyontheroad
(Post 25895371)
This is potentially great news, but I'd be interested to hear more about recent MU TPAC in coach if anyone's done it.
I had to send 9 people to SIN a few months ago and looked at China Eastern, but ended up on China Southern, after reading some unfavorable reviews and hearing some negative stories about China Eastern. They were all pretty happy - with a newish 777 JFK-CAN. |
Originally Posted by belfordrocks
(Post 25896396)
Huh, I tried doing a few dummy bookings from North America to Shanghai and the lowest fare bucket I could get was T. Maybe the even lower ones are reserved for intra-Asia or other routes.
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SIN - PVG - JFK (Class Q at SGD 614.00)
MU566 23:25 Mar.12 (SINGAPORE) 04:55 Mar.13 (Shanghai Pu Dong Airport) MU587 11:30 Mar.13 (Shanghai Pu Dong Airport) 14:25 Mar.13 (NEW YORK JOHN F KENNEDY) |
i travel on china eastern quite often within china. regardless of this new group 1 deal, it is not fun flying in and out of shanghai as flights are often delayed. i flew their 777 a couple of time. the service was extremely friend but the food was blah. the seat wasn't clean though...
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Originally Posted by PayItForward
(Post 25898312)
SIN - PVG - JFK (Class Q at SGD 614.00)
MU566 23:25 Mar.12 (SINGAPORE) 04:55 Mar.13 (Shanghai Pu Dong Airport) MU587 11:30 Mar.13 (Shanghai Pu Dong Airport) 14:25 Mar.13 (NEW YORK JOHN F KENNEDY) |
Originally Posted by PayItForward
(Post 25898312)
SIN - PVG - JFK (Class Q at SGD 614.00)
MU566 23:25 Mar.12 (SINGAPORE) 04:55 Mar.13 (Shanghai Pu Dong Airport) MU587 11:30 Mar.13 (Shanghai Pu Dong Airport) 14:25 Mar.13 (NEW YORK JOHN F KENNEDY) Class Exclusions: If a class is not listed, no miles are earned. |
Am I correct in assuming that if I book JFK-PVG in business directly with MU that I can get full mileage but without the medallion bonus?
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Originally Posted by sbjnyc
(Post 25902116)
Am I correct in assuming that if I book JFK-PVG in business directly with MU that I can get full mileage but without the medallion bonus?
(4) Medallion Mileage Bonus is based on Base Miles earned: Diamond - 120%; Platinum - 80%; Gold - 60%; Silver - 40% You will also receive a class of service bonus on the base miles for business class (75 - 100%). |
Originally Posted by LBJ
(Post 25902175)
Are you talking about redeemable miles? You will receive a Medallion bonus on the base miles as noted in footnote 4:
(4) Medallion Mileage Bonus is based on Base Miles earned: Diamond - 120%; Platinum - 80%; Gold - 60%; Silver - 40% You will also receive a class of service bonus on the base miles for business class (75 - 100%). We still get the class of service bonus on MQMs, namely 150% for DL flights ticketed in B Y G A P Z I D, with 200% for FULL F and FULL J/C. |
This is for non 006 tickets?
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Anyone else find it odd that an international first-class (P) ticket on China Eastern only receives a MQM bonus of 150% while a business-class (J) ticket receives a MQM bonus of 200%?
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
(Post 25902195)
I don't think this is right. When DL moved to revenue based earning of miles, the class of service bonus was eliminated. As a DM, I get 11 miles per dollar for D1, FC, and coach tickets equally (plus the RDMs for buying tickets with a DL AmEx card).
Originally Posted by hockeyinsider
(Post 25905743)
Anyone else find it odd that an international first-class (P) ticket on China Eastern only receives a MQM bonus of 150% while a business-class (J) ticket receives a MQM bonus of 200%?
So not odd, and in fact the same as for AF, where P and J earn 200% but F,C,D,I,Z earn 150%. |
For what it's worth, the purser on my flight out of NRT and I were talking about how great the ground staff are in NRT. (This is the third time I've had him in the last week or so.) He told me Delta is continuing to eliminate jobs at NRT. He also said many of the Detroit-based crew are worried because they think Delta will start to also eliminate Asian flights out of Detroit as it shifts to Seattle and probably makes Shanghai a hub with China Eastern like Amsterdam is with KLM.
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Originally Posted by hockeyinsider
(Post 25918493)
For what it's worth, the purser on my flight out of NRT and I were talking about how great the ground staff are in NRT. (This is the third time I've had him in the last week or so.) He told me Delta is continuing to eliminate jobs at NRT. He also said many of the Detroit-based crew are worried because they think Delta will start to also eliminate Asian flights out of Detroit as it shifts to Seattle and probably makes Shanghai a hub with China Eastern like Amsterdam is with KLM.
Routing someone from Boston thru Seattle to Asia is silly. Routing someone from San Francisco thru Detroit to Asia is silly. |
Originally Posted by kjnangre
(Post 25921735)
I think those Detroit have nothing to fear. It doesn't make any sense (financial or otherwise) for DL to send route East Coast to Asia passengers thru Seattle. DL needs 2 Asian gateways, one for the Eastern US and one for the West.
Routing someone from Boston thru Seattle to Asia is silly. Routing someone from San Francisco thru Detroit to Asia is silly. |
Originally Posted by hockeyinsider
(Post 25922245)
Then what about Atlanta and New York's J.F.K.? Delta has non-stop flights from those airports to Asia. The same with Los Angeles on the West Coast.
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
(Post 25924025)
And PDX too. Just because DTW and SEA are the main Asia gateways, doesn't mean that ALL flights have to go through those cities.
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Originally Posted by hockeyinsider
(Post 25922245)
Then what about Atlanta and New York's J.F.K.? Delta has non-stop flights from those airports to Asia. The same with Los Angeles on the West Coast.
On paper, China Eastern is an option, but in practice with a hit-or-miss soft product and (even more critically) PVG as the least reliable transit option, there's just no compelling reason to stay on DL/SkyTeam for NYC based (or really most of the East Coast) TPAC travel. |
Originally Posted by bennos
(Post 25925536)
DL has n/s from these airports to Tokyo, and that's it. DTW is also losing its utility for TPAC from the east coast. Example: HKG, which is only accessible from SEA.
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Originally Posted by TrojanTraveler
(Post 25925956)
HKG is still accessible from NRT. Just had a colleague make the JFK-NRT-HKG trip. Or is this service being discontinued?
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Originally Posted by bennos
(Post 25926523)
For my April trip, I am only offered connections via SEA or ICN, with the latter being absurdly overpriced KE codeshares.
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Originally Posted by TrojanTraveler
(Post 25926548)
Interesting. If DL only offers service to HKG via SEA, then that's another city to which I'll be flying on somebody else from JFK.
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Originally Posted by LBJ
(Post 25926604)
DL dropped NRT-HKG back on Oct 24, 2014 (I was on the last flight) and closed the HKG FA base. They recently brought it back temporarily for the winter and it alternates with SEA-HKG. They will drop NRT-HKG again at the end of March and go back to flying solely from SEA to HKG..
Personally, I prefer NRT to SEA for making connections to Asia. Take SIN. 12 hours from DTW to NRT and the 8 hours from NRT to SIN. NRT makes a nice almost halfway point to shower, eat and catch up on some work. I would rather do that than sit on a plane for 16 or 17 hours, which I think is going to be the case going forward. Also, the Delta ground staff at NRT and SIN are incredible. At HKG, it was contract staff, if I recall correctly. Plus, Delta never seemed to value HKG judging by the lousy domestic-configured 757s that it often flew there from NRT. |
Originally Posted by hockeyinsider
(Post 25926761)
Which means, theoretically, they could bring it back again. Especially with that new Sky Team lounge in Hong Kong.
I liked the DTW-HKG flight. The timings were good and DTW is pleasant enough for transfers. I only flew HKG-NRT as part of a stopover in TYO, but with stopovers no longer permitted on award tickets that segment lost its appeal anyway. Anywho, off to oneworld I go. |
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