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Old Jul 10, 2016, 5:48 pm
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Delta rolls out schedule changes pretty much every Saturday, though the scope/impact can vary. During this time, seat maps may be locked out, may show the wrong aircraft layout, etc. while changes are occurring. If you are not traveling immediately, FT conventional wisdom is to wait until Sunday (or even Monday in the case of major schedule adjustments where things take longer) for things to settle down, then take stock of your upcoming itineraries to see what changes have occurred and what changes/refunds you may be entitled to.

You are entitled to a full refund to original form of payment, even for a ticket that was purchased as a non-refundable ticket, if any of the following occur as a result of schedule change:
  • departure or arrival delay of 2hrs or more
  • increase in the number of flight segments (non-stop to connecting, 1-stop to 2-stop, etc.)
  • change resulting in a connection below the Minimum Connection Time for a given airport (do a Google search for "site:flyertalk.com minimum connecting time XXX" with the airport code to find the relevant thread if one exists)
  • any change in operating carrier, i.e. operated by Delta mainline before the schedule change and Delta Connection after the change
    • it is also a commonly-held belief that a change from Delta Connection to mainline, or from one Delta Connection carrier to a different Delta Connection carrier, also qualifies for a full refund -- if anyone has documentation of this, a link would be great...

The airline would rather keep your money than refund it, so they will frequently accept any vaguely reasonable rerouting that you propose. This includes, by policy, changing origin and/or destination within 100 miles, rebooking +/- two days, and changing outbound/return date to keep the length of the trip the same post-rebooking.

If none of the above conditions for a refund is true, you may still be entitled to a free change -- in your trip summary there will be a notice about changes/refunds, and per the "conditions apply" popup link in that text:

If a Delta schedule or routing change has delayed your departure or arrival by more than one hour, you may be eligible to select an alternate flight at no additional charge. Note that the below conditions may apply:
  • Your origin, destination and travel date must remain the same
  • Alternate flights must be available, and you can only modify once as subsequent changes may result in additional fees
  • Voluntary changes to other flights not impacted by a Delta schedule change may result in additional fees
If possible, you may wish to try modifying your flights online first -- there have been data points where the site allowed a free rebooking even though it did not technically fall into the above categories. NOTE however that self-rebooking online is known not to work if you have (1) any trip involving upgrade certificates (whether cleared or not), (2) if you have self-upgraded by picking an upgraded seat that said FREE (instead of waiting for the automated upgrade system sweep to reseat you in an upgraded seat), this seems to inhibit self-rebooking as well.

Otherwise, suggested best practice is to research your preferred alternative rebooking beforehand (whether DL flight search, Google Flights, ITA Matrix etc.) so that you can speak with an agent already knowing what you want, and ask for it; this will be much more efficient than having an agent find alternatives for you.

Other notes/FAQs:
  • Even if you voluntarily choose a preferred rebooking, you have a high likelihood of success claiming Original Routing Credit since the original reason for the change was involuntary.
  • If you booked through a travel agency, including online travel agencies (OTA) such as Expedia, Chase Ultimate Rewards, etc. you will have to contact them, not Delta, to request rerouting if the automatic rebooking is not satisfactory to you.
    • There have been reports of an agency insisting that a change of 2 hours was required (per the "pro" site) for a free change, even though the popup on the DL site says 1 hour
    • You can sometimes get Delta to take over a travel agency ticket; this is subject to a $50 fee to take over the ticket, although sometimes agents decline to collect it
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Old Mar 22, 2019, 7:26 pm
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I believe that DL Gate agent will do their best to put you beside an empty seat, but if the flight is full, they will obviously not succeed.

6:20am seems like your only other option. You won't get free skyclub access. They just don't do that.

You could also cancel and book yourself two coach tickets all the way to SFO.

I'm sympathetic, it's a tough situation, but these things happen. I don't think social media will help.
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Old Mar 30, 2019, 11:06 am
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This one hurt. Booked my first flight on the new A220 from MSP to IAH in June. Schedule change Saturday moved me from the A220 to a CRJ-900. Ouch.
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Old Mar 30, 2019, 11:31 am
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Originally Posted by jrkmsp
This one hurt. Booked my first flight on the new A220 from MSP to IAH in June. Schedule change Saturday moved me from the A220 to a CRJ-900. Ouch.
In the past, I had three out of four booked DL 747 journeys on the top deck switch to the crappy 777's on schedule change Saturdays. I think you will get another chance to nab the A220's. ^
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Old Mar 30, 2019, 12:43 pm
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Originally Posted by jrkmsp
This one hurt. Booked my first flight on the new A220 from MSP to IAH in June. Schedule change Saturday moved me from the A220 to a CRJ-900. Ouch.
With the change to a RJ resulting in an operating carrier switch, you are entitled to a free change or refund regardless if the times changed or not. If there another flight on the A220 that fits your schedule, you should be able to change to it for free.
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Old Mar 30, 2019, 3:27 pm
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
How do you figure?? I can think of very few business cabins that resemble domestic first. It's actually a premium economy cabin. It's almost identical to many airline's premium economy products.
Come on... there are plenty of narrowbody business cabins that resemble US carriers' domestic F. Intra-Asia seating on narrowbodies is very similar to what US airlines offer on nearly every carrier. https://onemileatatime.com/wp-conten...ss_Class01.jpg is SilkAir (Singapore Airlines' regional division) seat, for example, but that's typical of nearly everyone. This same sort of thing can be found worldwide. In fact, in some cases it's literally the same seat Delta uses - Aeroflot is one concrete example of that. https://onemileatatime.com/wp-conten...lass-737-3.jpg

In fact, the only real exception is that, within Europe, nearly everyone sells an economy seat with the middle blocked as "business class". If you want to realign classification of onboard products that should really be premium economy, that would truly be the proper place to start.
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Old Mar 30, 2019, 9:22 pm
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Originally Posted by MCO Flyer
With the change to a RJ resulting in an operating carrier switch, you are entitled to a free change or refund regardless if the times changed or not. If there another flight on the A220 that fits your schedule, you should be able to change to it for free.
MSP-IAH went back to all RJ for that day. Believe me — I looked. It's June, so possibly it'll change in the future. I'm going to be looking. I have a little wiggle room in my travel plan, so fingers crossed.
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Old Apr 7, 2019, 3:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Air Rarotonga
Booked an Award Ticket in January for June 2019 in First class: RAP-MSP-SLC-SFO / 43K Skymiles. I booked First class because I wanted to fullfil the DL rules not to take up place to the neighbour's place in a coach seat row... For me totaly understandable and no question to do so!
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Getting back to my post a few days ago...
Thank you very much for your feedbacks and experienes with DL. So i finally tried to get the best out of my situation. Offered to be involuntarly booked on the 6.20am flight RAP-MSP (surprisignily a 717 now) then, DL1310 MSP-JFK/717 and DL610 JFK-SFO/75W with no additional charge. There was no single question about my desired routing and O-cl was opend up accordignily! Worked out well for me Thank you again¨for your help!
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Old Apr 7, 2019, 4:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Air Rarotonga
Getting back to my post a few days ago...
Thank you very much for your feedbacks and experienes with DL. So i finally tried to get the best out of my situation. Offered to be involuntarly booked on the 6.20am flight RAP-MSP (surprisignily a 717 now) then, DL1310 MSP-JFK/717 and DL610 JFK-SFO/75W with no additional charge. There was no single question about my desired routing and O-cl was opend up accordignily! Worked out well for me Thank you again¨for your help!
Why JFK?? I would understand it's a great way to earn more miles, but you're on an award ticket.
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Old Apr 9, 2019, 3:35 pm
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
Why JFK?? I would understand it's a great way to earn more miles, but you're on an award ticket.
That's correct, but why not? I like to fly and getting a transcon instead of two 319/320 shorthaul flights is a big difference and I really love to fly. And in addition, I will get SkyClub access with the DL1 flight
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Old Apr 14, 2019, 8:58 pm
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Have a change in my award flights booked via Korean Air
Was booked on a non-stop ATL-HNL
Changed to a ATL-LAX-HNL (same departure time, arrival one hour later)

The original nonstop flight is still there on the same day, just shifted by two hours. What are the chances I can move back to the original flight, even though it shows no award availability? Extra stop in LAX is a huge inconvenience with kids on the trip.

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Old Apr 15, 2019, 12:28 am
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Originally Posted by vromantik
Have a change in my award flights booked via Korean Air
Was booked on a non-stop ATL-HNL
Changed to a ATL-LAX-HNL (same departure time, arrival one hour later)

The original nonstop flight is still there on the same day, just shifted by two hours. What are the chances I can move back to the original flight, even though it shows no award availability? Extra stop in LAX is a huge inconvenience with kids on the trip.
Call and ask to be put back on what you booked. Problem is that you booked via KE. Thus KE must make the change. If there's no "saver" level available on the nonstop they'll have to contact DL to place you back on the flight.
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Old Apr 15, 2019, 7:25 am
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Was booked on MNL-ICN-SEA-JFK (KE -777-300 old Biz, DL 330 Neo D1 Suites, 737 Domestic F)
Schedule change cancelled the SEA-JFK flight, I parlayed that into MNL-NRT- SEA-JFK (D1 767 - D1 330 Neo - D1 757)

I hope they dont change again since it ended up with 2 major upgrades

On the other hand JFK-DTW on my outbound is showing CRJ-900, with other flights on that route now A220, fingers crossed my luck extends to that flight
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Old Apr 15, 2019, 9:20 am
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I'm booked on LAX-JFK-GRU-DTW-LAX this November, and GRU-DTW has since been discontinued. I have the option to reroute through ATL back to LAX, or to fly back via JFK instead. I notice though that the mileage differential between the two routes (GRU-ATL-LAX and GRU-JFK-LAX) is quite big, and I initially booked GRU-DTW-LAX because the mileage differential is quite small as opposed to going through ATL.

By the time I take this trip I expect to already hit DM, so I'm fine with taking the mileage hit if I have to, but I wonder which option is better and I figured I'd ask for this thread's wisdom.
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Old Apr 15, 2019, 1:29 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
Call and ask to be put back on what you booked. Problem is that you booked via KE. Thus KE must make the change. If there's no "saver" level available on the nonstop they'll have to contact DL to place you back on the flight.
Had to convince Korean Air agent to try and call Delta to fix it, but once they agreed, everything was changed OK within 15 minutes. Back to nonstop
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Old Apr 15, 2019, 5:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Akiestar
I'm booked on LAX-JFK-GRU-DTW-LAX this November, and GRU-DTW has since been discontinued. I have the option to reroute through ATL back to LAX, or to fly back via JFK instead. I notice though that the mileage differential between the two routes (GRU-ATL-LAX and GRU-JFK-LAX) is quite big, and I initially booked GRU-DTW-LAX because the mileage differential is quite small as opposed to going through ATL.

By the time I take this trip I expect to already hit DM, so I'm fine with taking the mileage hit if I have to, but I wonder which option is better and I figured I'd ask for this thread's wisdom.
Are you in D1? If so, and if ATL-LAX is on the 777, then I'd do GRU-ATL-LAX. Otherwise, it'd be a no brainer for me to do GRU-JFK-LAX due to the lie-flat cross-country.

If you're in coach? Then I'd go via ATL.
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