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playbbg Jun 29, 2015 9:20 pm

DL367 6/29
 
Was on DL367 from DTW-SLC today and had a go-around when we were just a few hundred feet off the ground. Pilot came on and said he had to abort the first attempt but would come around and try again, but that was it. no other information was given.

While it was not a big deal at all and we landed just fine the second time, I'm curious what caused the go-around. Is there anywhere I can look this information up?

Thanks for your help!

davetravels Jun 29, 2015 9:34 pm

Was it excessively windy? I've have a few go-arounds when it was really windy and the plane was bouncing around a good bit.

playbbg Jun 29, 2015 9:40 pm


Originally Posted by davetravels (Post 25046501)
Was it excessively windy? I've have a few go-arounds when it was really windy and the plane was bouncing around a good bit.

That was the thing. I've flown in and out of SLC probably over 100 times and it was one of the nicer days to fly I've experienced there. Perfectly sunny and not a single bump the whole way down or back up again.

I could tell we did an "S" turn for landing to switch runways, so I'm wondering if they asked to switch, got clearance, then the runway was occupied. I also didn't hear the gear go down, so I initially thought it was that, but I know the A320 gear is quiet coming down, so I may have just missed it.

Widgets Jun 29, 2015 10:01 pm

It's been mid to high 90s in SLC. Maybe the heat was a problem?

bigsaabowski Jun 29, 2015 10:02 pm

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ks...2015-1600Z.mp3

Listen at the 11:45 mark, and again at 12:50. Sounds like an unstable approach, maybe a little high or fast on final approach.

playbbg Jun 29, 2015 10:10 pm

interesting, thanks for passing along! Sounds like the pilot kind of messed up in some way. I can't totally make out what he was saying but the response by the ATC "ummm alright" is a bit telling. I wonder if that's why he never made a comment and kept the cockpit door closed during deplaning...

dzflyer Jun 29, 2015 10:42 pm

Have had it happen to me 3x.....once landing into okc due to fog on twa once landing into mdw on wn because an airplane on runway aborted takeoff once landing into bzn on nwa due to wind it was so windy we had to abort to geg to refuel and then try again they let people at geg off if they wanted to the pilot after circling bzn several times again after the refuel in geg basically said we are going for it and it was one of the crazier landings ive ever been a part of .....usually not a pilot error but it can be

WhiskeyBravo Jun 30, 2015 12:52 am


Originally Posted by playbbg (Post 25046618)
interesting, thanks for passing along! Sounds like the pilot kind of messed up in some way. I can't totally make out what he was saying but the response by the ATC "ummm alright" is a bit telling. I wonder if that's why he never made a comment and kept the cockpit door closed during deplaning...

There isn't really anyway to know other than to ask the pilot. There could be many many factors - I think to say "the pilot kind of messed up in some way" is unfair and not very polite without knowing the entire situation.

Travisaurus Jun 30, 2015 3:59 am

I live in SLC so it's my destination airport In the past 2 years, I've had two last-second go-arounds due to ground traffic not exiting the runway in a timely fashion. Not sure if it's coincidence or a fault with the runway design. Both times it was approaching from the north.

davetravels Jun 30, 2015 5:24 am


Originally Posted by WhiskeyBravo (Post 25047088)
I think to say "the pilot kind of messed up in some way" is unfair and not very polite without knowing the entire situation.

Polite? ? ? On an anonymous internet chat board? ? ?










Cute. :)

playbbg Jun 30, 2015 9:20 am


Originally Posted by WhiskeyBravo (Post 25047088)
There isn't really anyway to know other than to ask the pilot. There could be many many factors - I think to say "the pilot kind of messed up in some way" is unfair and not very polite without knowing the entire situation.

please note i said "sounds like". There also is zero indication that there were any other outside factors in play and, based on the audio, the ATC could not find a reason for the go-around other than a pilot issue.

If the pilot wanted to be polite, he could have communicated with his passengers as to the reason for the go-around or, at the very least, showed his face upon de-planing. As many always say, communication is the key in these cases. People make mistakes, but its better to let passengers know all is fine, than to let the stew as to what the problem could be.

davetravels Jun 30, 2015 9:31 am


Originally Posted by playbbg (Post 25048629)
If the pilot wanted to be polite, he could have communicated with his passengers as to the reason for the go-around

I do completely agree with you, but, in his defense, I'd remind you that, takeoff and landing are the busiest times in the cockpit. I feel certain that the Captain had a million other thingz to do within those 5 or 10 minutes making last second changes, and such, that a PA announcement was probably the last possible thing on his mind.

:)

CarmenOM Jun 30, 2015 10:42 am


Originally Posted by dzflyer (Post 25046722)
Have had it happen to me 3x.....once landing into okc due to fog on twa once landing into mdw on wn because an airplane on runway aborted takeoff once landing into bzn on nwa due to wind it was so windy we had to abort to geg to refuel and then try again they let people at geg off if they wanted to the pilot after circling bzn several times again afteyr the refuel in geg basically said we are going for it and it was one of the crazier landings ive ever been a part of .....usually not a pilot error but it can be

Some punctuation would really help here.

sdadept Jun 30, 2015 10:49 am


Originally Posted by playbbg (Post 25046513)
That was the thing. I've flown in and out of SLC probably over 100 times and it was one of the nicer days to fly I've experienced there. Perfectly sunny and not a single bump the whole way down or back up again.

I could tell we did an "S" turn for landing to switch runways, so I'm wondering if they asked to switch, got clearance, then the runway was occupied. I also didn't hear the gear go down, so I initially thought it was that, but I know the A320 gear is quiet coming down, so I may have just missed it.

a couple weeks ago we went around on a late flight from JFK to SLC. Before we went around the pilot veered back and forth a couple times like he was unsure which runway to use. Felt more like we had a fighter pilot at the controls than a commercial pilot. I fly a ton and this was very unusual for what I've experienced.

MSPeconomist Jun 30, 2015 10:57 am

A go around isn't a big deal, although an aborted takeoff can be.

I agree with the comments that the pilot was too busy flying and landing the plane to communicate with passengers. Perhaps the lead FA could have made a brief vague reassuring announcement. Perhaps the pilot could have said a few words about what happened after the successful landing, perhaps right after parking at the gate, although by then folks are jockeying to deplane and usually don't appreciate any announcements that delay the process, especially if the flight is already a bit late by then.


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