Jul 14, 2015, 2:48 pm
Last edit by: BadgerBoi
The Definitive Guide to Seat Poaching
1. Don't do it.
2. Alternatively to #1: Asking politely (and not demanding) to swap for an equal or better seat is acceptable by most (but the final decision always lays with the original seat holder)...but, be warned, some FT'ers may breathe fire at you.
3. Keep in mind that Point 2 is not seat poaching.
1. Don't do it.
2. Alternatively to #1: Asking politely (and not demanding) to swap for an equal or better seat is acceptable by most (but the final decision always lays with the original seat holder)...but, be warned, some FT'ers may breathe fire at you.
3. Keep in mind that Point 2 is not seat poaching.
Seat Swapping, Seat Poaching and Seating Etiquette: The Definitive Thread
Oct 10, 2017, 10:57 pm
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However i believe the law said airline doesn't have to give seats to which extra privileges are attached. Ie free drink or food
Oct 10, 2017, 11:46 pm
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She is a better traveler than many adults.
Oct 10, 2017, 11:49 pm
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Really? My daughter, at 5 years of age, first was in BE from LAX-NRT w/o problem. At 2009, at 9 years of age, she flew LAX-NRT-MNL (upper deck on a 747 on NRT-MNL) without problem. Last December, on an LAX-SYD she, at 10 years of age, was in BE in 10A while I was in 2D. There was no problem on any of these flights, but she did think the food sucked.
She is a better traveler than many adults.
She is a better traveler than many adults.
Oct 11, 2017, 1:02 am
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Really? My daughter, at 5 years of age, first was in BE from LAX-NRT w/o problem. At 2009, at 9 years of age, she flew LAX-NRT-MNL (upper deck on a 747 on NRT-MNL) without problem. Last December, on an LAX-SYD she, at 10 years of age, was in BE in 10A while I was in 2D. There was no problem on any of these flights, but she did think the food sucked.
She is a better traveler than many adults.
She is a better traveler than many adults.
LOL
So, let me get this straight...
In 2009 she was 9 years old.
Last year (2016), she was 10 years old.
So between 2009 and 2016, she only aged 1 year?!
Are these dog years? Is she a pet dog??? :P
Oct 11, 2017, 1:23 am
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Actually, the LAX-NRT-MNL was in 2016, not 2009. Her first BE flight (now Delta One) was in 2012.
Oct 11, 2017, 6:24 am
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Oct 11, 2017, 6:27 am
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What if the flight only has middle seats a few rows apart left when the BE seat assignments are made and someone is travelling with their 5 year old the mother/father gets row 16 middle kid gets row 22 middle, if they MUST be sat together someone loses a aisle or window for a middle.
Oct 11, 2017, 6:33 am
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Oct 11, 2017, 7:54 am
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Switch 16 middle to 23 middle. The result is two middle seats adjacent to each other, front to back, and in the rear of the aircraft. Problem solved.
Oct 11, 2017, 9:38 am
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Oct 11, 2017, 10:10 am
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Now how can you be sure about that?
It may be likely you'll never see them again, but going through life treating every person you see as an isolated and single interaction seems to be a rather obtuse way to go about things.
Do you harbor that same attitude (of not caring what other people think about you) with people who work in your same building? People who live in your same city? People who live on your same street? Or do you only draw that line with people on an airplane that you hope to never see again?
It may be likely you'll never see them again, but going through life treating every person you see as an isolated and single interaction seems to be a rather obtuse way to go about things.
Do you harbor that same attitude (of not caring what other people think about you) with people who work in your same building? People who live in your same city? People who live on your same street? Or do you only draw that line with people on an airplane that you hope to never see again?
The degree to which I use the attitude is dependent upon the odds of my having to interact with them again, and to what degree they have any influence or power over my life. On the plane, that's pretty much nothing. In my workplace, it's everyone. So the attitude changes depending on the context. Although I do appreciate you trying to draw false equivalences.
Oct 11, 2017, 11:31 am
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That works well unless the person originally in 23 middle is traveling with someone (especially a child!) in 23 window or aisle.
Oct 11, 2017, 11:51 am
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What if the flight only has middle seats a few rows apart left when the BE seat assignments are made and someone is travelling with their 5 year old the mother/father gets row 16 middle kid gets row 22 middle, if they MUST be sat together someone loses a aisle or window for a middle.
Oct 11, 2017, 11:57 am
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Presumably, the PNR will reflect that, so that the earlier family reservation would be blocked from switching. If, however, it was not a family reservation, just pax traveling together, I would expect more than a little consternation if people lose their chosen seats to accommodate a later-booking family. The intent of the legislation was to prevent, as often happens, parents being separated from their children either because of airline-initiated re-booking (IRROPS, equipment changes, etc.) or because the parent books singles. I don't think Congress intended to create "uber status" for parents traveling with children that results in the airline bouncing other pax from their seats or from the entire flight, just because a parent wishes to fly on a heavily-booked flight.
Oct 11, 2017, 12:14 pm
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That, I think, is the question. If, at the time of booking, there are no adjacent seats available, I can't see the airline being required to provide a free upgrade to the family, nor can I see the airline arbitrarily switching seats for passengers who are already ticketed and have seats. As I understand it, the legislation requires that parents sit with children. It doesn't require that the airlines accommodate parents who wish to book flights for which there are not adjacent seats. As I noted in another post, the latter would cause quite an uproar, particularly among FF business travelers.