Meltdown at IAH this morning
#16
Join Date: Feb 2015
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This morning at IAH temps were hovering right around freezing, and we had had some light drizzle overnight. This led to some ice accumulation on aircraft sitting overnight at IAH... I arrived at IAH for my 7:05 flight to ATL to find that all the earlier ~6AM delta flights to all destinations had started progressive delays because of the ice build up on the aircraft, we were essentially waiting for temps to rise so ice would melt on its own. Since all gates were tied up, planes for the 7AM hour and beyond were still parked remotely until the gates cleared. My first thought was why couldn't they spray the planes down with fluid? Other airlines were spraying theirs down and leaving more or less on time...
Fast forward to 8AM, the earlier 6AM flight to ATL and all the other earlier flights started leaving, and were then deiced! If they could've been deiced earlier, why weren't they? Just a very confusing situation overall, wasn't really ever sure what the real story was and it caused some pretty massive delays and chaos at all the delta gates at IAH... My 7:05 to ATL wound up leaving at 9:00, luckily I had a very padded connection
Fast forward to 8AM, the earlier 6AM flight to ATL and all the other earlier flights started leaving, and were then deiced! If they could've been deiced earlier, why weren't they? Just a very confusing situation overall, wasn't really ever sure what the real story was and it caused some pretty massive delays and chaos at all the delta gates at IAH... My 7:05 to ATL wound up leaving at 9:00, luckily I had a very padded connection
#18
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The issue wasn't weather in Houston, the issue was weather in Atlanta. The Atlanta airport has two deicing areas and each one can only deice thirty aircraft a hour (60 total) so the airlines (mainly Delta as it's their biggest hub) spread out delays TO Atlanta to avoid gridlock for gates and LONG backups for the deicing areas. The airport was advertising only 80 arrivals a hour yesterday. The airport can handle almost twice that many arrivals (132) and 118 departures on a nice day, but reduced the rate because of weather.
#19
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I read your post correctly and I'm telling you why the flights to Atlanta were being delayed. I don't know and could care less why the flights to other destinations were delayed, but flights were being delayed to Atlanta to reduce gridlock because only 60 aircraft can deice and depart Atlanta in one hour! So if you reduce the arrival rate, you reduce delays departing Atlanta as you simply can't deice and wait around to depart for hours.
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Ok, this is only tangental to the OP, but I can't stand the smell of the de-icing liquid. Makes me want to throw up. Also, I was on a plane in SLC when the de-icing truck clipped our plane and we all had to get on a different plane. It is really technical what they do on those de-icing rigs.
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Problem solved.^
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We have two trucks, had three for a week until they realized they shipped the relic to the wrong station!
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I read your post correctly and I'm telling you why the flights to Atlanta were being delayed. I don't know and could care less why the flights to other destinations were delayed, but flights were being delayed to Atlanta to reduce gridlock because only 60 aircraft can deice and depart Atlanta in one hour! So if you reduce the arrival rate, you reduce delays departing Atlanta as you simply can't deice and wait around to depart for hours.
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#28
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De-icing, as mentioned above, is a strict protocol. I don't know all of the details at all airports but at DTW and MSP there are designated de-icing areas. The de-icing fluid, which is poisonous and not environmentally friendly, is collected via a drainage system and recycled.
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This happened to us years ago at BWI when DL was in Pier C (since the merger they moved to Pier D). The battery on the de-icing fluid truck died before it could service our 6 am departure, and it took two hours to repair it.
Those were the days when the concierges in the Crown Room could really help you if you were in the top tier (this was in the pre-Diamond era). I was trying to get to SMF, and I misconnected to the 8:30 am departure from ATL. The staff in the CR got my ticket bumped up to full Y, they put me on an ATL-SLC-SMF reroute, and I managed to get the last upgrade seat to SLC.
Those were the days when the concierges in the Crown Room could really help you if you were in the top tier (this was in the pre-Diamond era). I was trying to get to SMF, and I misconnected to the 8:30 am departure from ATL. The staff in the CR got my ticket bumped up to full Y, they put me on an ATL-SLC-SMF reroute, and I managed to get the last upgrade seat to SLC.