Rumor: DL removing complementary upgrades
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Exactly. All they need to do is make the upgradable fare buckets smaller and keep the "benefit" intact. I think this is already happening. Of course since it is no longer possible to see fare buckets anymore we have no way of verifying. I do think the days of plentiful and dependable upgrades are quickly coming to a close.
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This rumor will have the TH3 crowd all atwitter.
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I have missed more upgrades in the last month than I had in the previous 12. Nothing has changed in my buying timeframe or routes, but I have been in Y a lot more. It has also been harder to secure EC seats. I am having to set a reminder to check exactly at 24 hours prior to try and snag one of the bulkhead seats.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bzn
I do think the days of plentiful and dependable upgrades are quickly coming to a close.
I have missed more upgrades in the last month than I had in the previous 12. Nothing has changed in my buying timeframe or routes, but I have been in Y a lot more. It has also been harder to secure EC seats. I am having to set a reminder to check exactly at 24 hours prior to try and snag one of the bulkhead seats.
Originally Posted by bzn
I do think the days of plentiful and dependable upgrades are quickly coming to a close.
I have missed more upgrades in the last month than I had in the previous 12. Nothing has changed in my buying timeframe or routes, but I have been in Y a lot more. It has also been harder to secure EC seats. I am having to set a reminder to check exactly at 24 hours prior to try and snag one of the bulkhead seats.
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Not sure I believe this. Didn't they just state that paid F was only like 44% on the earnings call? I can't see a situation where they would take them away domestically and leave 50%+++ empty. That wouldn't seem to make any financial sense unless they doubled the fares too. Once they get to 70-80% paid F loads maybe they could consider it but I just don't see this one happening. I would agree that upgrades are more difficult than ever now and it seems to be moving that way but 44% paid F loads is way too low to end the complimentary upgrades and would likely severely hurt the financial performance.
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Not sure I believe this. Didn't they just state that paid F was only like 44% on the earnings call? I can't see a situation where they would take them away domestically and leave 50%+++ empty. That wouldn't seem to make any financial sense unless they doubled the fares too. Once they get to 70-80% paid F loads maybe they could consider it but I just don't see this one happening. I would agree that upgrades are more difficult than ever now and it seems to be moving that way but 44% paid F loads is way too low to end the complimentary upgrades and would likely severely hurt the financial performance.
AA charges for upgrades for all elites except EXPs. Their F cabins are just as full as DL and they pocked more than $100M each year from upgrade "sticker" sales.
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Locking this one up. If more credible info emerges, will re-open.
Right now, this thread is about "rumors."
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Right now, this thread is about "rumors."
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