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Old Oct 19, 2014, 4:15 pm
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Originally Posted by skchin
fishy like the clam soup I had for lunch today.
I love clam soup... You like sushi too?
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Old Oct 19, 2014, 4:20 pm
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Originally Posted by bennos
This, except they don't need to "save face" but "continue advertising a benefit that lots of people like but fewer people will see".
Exactly. All they need to do is make the upgradable fare buckets smaller and keep the "benefit" intact. I think this is already happening. Of course since it is no longer possible to see fare buckets anymore we have no way of verifying. I do think the days of plentiful and dependable upgrades are quickly coming to a close.
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Old Oct 19, 2014, 4:28 pm
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Originally Posted by PRWeezer
And you had to earn/cash in 800-mile segment upgrade certificates ...
But, you got FC mileage bonus and actually made a mileage profit on the deal.

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Old Oct 19, 2014, 4:31 pm
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This rumor will have the TH3 crowd all atwitter.
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Old Oct 19, 2014, 4:38 pm
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This rumor will have the TH3 crowd all atwitter.
I must've missed TH2.
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Old Oct 19, 2014, 4:42 pm
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Originally Posted by mbwmbw
I love clam soup... You like sushi too?
I just speared the bearded clam (honestly)
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Old Oct 19, 2014, 4:50 pm
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I must've missed TH2.
As previously disclaimed... this has nothing to do with the long-absent Duke of Bombay.
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Old Oct 19, 2014, 4:57 pm
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Originally Posted by bzn
I do think the days of plentiful and dependable upgrades are quickly coming to a close.
I have missed more upgrades in the last month than I had in the previous 12. Nothing has changed in my buying timeframe or routes, but I have been in Y a lot more. It has also been harder to secure EC seats. I am having to set a reminder to check exactly at 24 hours prior to try and snag one of the bulkhead seats.
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Old Oct 19, 2014, 6:31 pm
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Originally Posted by bzn


I do think the days of plentiful and dependable upgrades are quickly coming to a close.




I have missed more upgrades in the last month than I had in the previous 12. Nothing has changed in my buying timeframe or routes, but I have been in Y a lot more. It has also been harder to secure EC seats. I am having to set a reminder to check exactly at 24 hours prior to try and snag one of the bulkhead seats.
DL doesn't care about you at all. It's a joke to them. They just want $$$.
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Old Oct 19, 2014, 7:31 pm
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Not sure I believe this. Didn't they just state that paid F was only like 44% on the earnings call? I can't see a situation where they would take them away domestically and leave 50%+++ empty. That wouldn't seem to make any financial sense unless they doubled the fares too. Once they get to 70-80% paid F loads maybe they could consider it but I just don't see this one happening. I would agree that upgrades are more difficult than ever now and it seems to be moving that way but 44% paid F loads is way too low to end the complimentary upgrades and would likely severely hurt the financial performance.
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Old Oct 19, 2014, 8:20 pm
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Not sure I believe this. Didn't they just state that paid F was only like 44% on the earnings call? I can't see a situation where they would take them away domestically and leave 50%+++ empty. That wouldn't seem to make any financial sense unless they doubled the fares too. Once they get to 70-80% paid F loads maybe they could consider it but I just don't see this one happening. I would agree that upgrades are more difficult than ever now and it seems to be moving that way but 44% paid F loads is way too low to end the complimentary upgrades and would likely severely hurt the financial performance.
Huh? So in your world, not a single person would pay for an upgrade and the F cabins would fly 56% empty?? Good one.

AA charges for upgrades for all elites except EXPs. Their F cabins are just as full as DL and they pocked more than $100M each year from upgrade "sticker" sales.
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Old Oct 19, 2014, 8:32 pm
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Locking this one up. If more credible info emerges, will re-open.
Right now, this thread is about "rumors."
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