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Old Oct 12, 2014, 10:16 am
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MQD for non US residents

Any chance that Delta will change this to a global requirement?

As I am thinking about switching to Skyteam away from Star Alliance that would be very helpful.
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Old Oct 12, 2014, 10:22 am
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At the current time no. For those outside the US, just getting on DL normally is providing a good bit of revenue. Unlike those in the US, were you could fly tons of short cheap flights and still have given DL very little in revenue. Until the day comes that DL doesn't need JV/codeshares to cover most the world I doubt they'll have a MQD for those outside the US.
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Old Oct 12, 2014, 10:58 am
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Originally Posted by SwissCircle
Any chance that Delta will change this to a global requirement?

As I am thinking about switching to Skyteam away from Star Alliance that would be very helpful.
Their exemption of MQD with $25k AMEX spend is not open to non-US resident. So they would probably keep us exempted.

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At the current time no. For those outside the US, just getting on DL normally is providing a good bit of revenue. Unlike those in the US, were you could fly tons of short cheap flights and still have given DL very little in revenue. Until the day comes that DL doesn't need JV/codeshares to cover most the world I doubt they'll have a MQD for those outside the US.
Not really. I think DL lost money on my DL travel this year with all the TPAC price wars that I was able to take advantage of. MQM 200K+, MQD <$10k.
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Old Oct 12, 2014, 11:08 am
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Originally Posted by SwissCircle
Any chance that Delta will change this to a global requirement?

As I am thinking about switching to Skyteam away from Star Alliance that would be very helpful.
SkyTeam isn't a frequent flyer program - it's an alliance of carriers. All rules of the program in which miles are accrued apply. One has lots of choices of FF program across SkyTeam carriers.
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What exactly are the MQD exemption rules if one is living overseas? I may be moving to Grand Cayman next year and will still keep my house here in the US which I will stay at when I'm here for business/pleasure. How does DL track this? Will it be a matter of where my flights originate from and return to? Most of my flights will be to/from GCM in the future, however I might be flying a lot from my current home airport (SFO) to destinations within the US, as well as to Asia/Europe. I don't intend to abuse the system, as I'm only trying to find out what the rules are!
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The rule is quite simple. It goes by the address you have on file with Delta. As long as you can get mail sent to you. You're fine as long as mail can be sent there. They will ask for some type of proof to change it. However once changed you're good.
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
The rule is quite simple. It goes by the address you have on file with Delta. As long as you can get mail sent to you. You're fine as long as mail can be sent there. They will ask for some type of proof to change it. However once changed you're good.
AFAIK for domestic to overseas address changes, DL has been demanding proof since the MQD requirement started. There's a big thread detailing exactly what documents DL accepts for this purpose. You might need to show a permanent residence card (or equivalent in the jurisdiction, possibly including a work permit) in addition to a lease/mortgage and utility bills.

Despite this, if your travel patterns show that you're really still living in the USA (even at a different location), I would expect DL to get upset with you.

You might want to track your MQD (even if DL doesn't), keep records, and try to satisfy your MQD or waiver requirements for status anyway if you're going to be close, in case it ever becomes an issue with DL.
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Old Jul 29, 2019, 9:43 am
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
The rule is quite simple. It goes by the address you have on file with Delta. As long as you can get mail sent to you. You're fine as long as mail can be sent there. They will ask for some type of proof to change it. However once changed you're good.
Once my plans have been confirmed, then I'll contact DL and ask them when the MQD exemption starts...for example if I move before the end of this year, will I be MQD exempted for all of 2019?
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Once my plans have been confirmed, then I'll contact DL and ask them when the MQD exemption starts...for example if I move before the end of this year, will I be MQD exempted for all of 2019?
I went through this when I moved to Prague late last year. DL accepts a copy of the lease as proof of new address (UA also needed a utility bill, but not DL). You will be 100% fully exempt from 2019 MQD requirements if you give DL proof of your new address before the end of this year. For more information:

https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...ram-rules.html

Scroll down to the "name and address change" section of that webpage. While it says you'll have to mail or fax proof of your new address, DL accepted it when I attached a copy of my lease to them through the webform that pops up when you go to change your address to a foreign address in your DL profile.
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Old Jul 29, 2019, 9:56 am
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
AFAIK for domestic to overseas address changes, DL has been demanding proof since the MQD requirement started. There's a big thread detailing exactly what documents DL accepts for this purpose. You might need to show a permanent residence card (or equivalent in the jurisdiction, possibly including a work permit) in addition to a lease/mortgage and utility bills.

Despite this, if your travel patterns show that you're really still living in the USA (even at a different location), I would expect DL to get upset with you.

You might want to track your MQD (even if DL doesn't), keep records, and try to satisfy your MQD or waiver requirements for status anyway if you're going to be close, in case it ever becomes an issue with DL.
Legal Residency is NOT a DL requirement. You only need to show the proof (pease, utility bill, etc) of address.
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Old Jul 29, 2019, 10:01 am
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Originally Posted by LoganFlyer
I went through this when I moved to Prague late last year. DL accepts a copy of the lease as proof of new address (UA also needed a utility bill, but not DL). You will be 100% fully exempt from 2019 MQD requirements if you give DL proof of your new address before the end of this year. For more information:

https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...ram-rules.html

Scroll down to the "name and address change" section of that webpage. While it says you'll have to mail or fax proof of your new address, DL accepted it when I attached a copy of my lease to them through the webform that pops up when you go to change your address to a foreign address in your DL profile.
However that exemption won't come into play till you hit a threshold. Ie if you already have 125k MQM but only 9K MQD you wont become DM simply by changing address. You'll need to wait till you hit the next MQS threshold (even if only the Silver MQS) which will cause system to look at MQD. Itll see now you're exempt and youll become DM.
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Old Jul 29, 2019, 10:07 am
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However that exemption won't come into play till you hit a threshold. Ie if you already have 125k MQMs but only 9K MQD you wont become DM simply by changing address. You'll need to wait till you hit the next MQS threshold (even if only the Silver MQS) which will cause system to look at MQD. Itll see now you're exempt and youll become DM.
This is correct. At each MQM or MQS threshold DL will check your address. If you hit 125,000 MQM and the next day change to a foreign address you will not become DM. You need to have the foreign address in there at the time you cross any threshold. This was my experience and they would not adjust retroactively.
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Old Jul 29, 2019, 10:21 am
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
However that exemption won't come into play till you hit a threshold. Ie if you already have 125k MQM but only 9K MQD you wont become DM simply by changing address. You'll need to wait till you hit the next MQS threshold (even if only the Silver MQS) which will cause system to look at MQD. Itll see now you're exempt and youll become DM.
That was false for me--at the time I changed my address last November I was at 65,000 MQMs but nowhere near the MQD requirement for gold. As soon as my address change was processed, my 2019 status was updated from silver to gold.
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Old Jul 29, 2019, 11:15 am
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That was false for me--at the time I changed my address last November I was at 65,000 MQMs but nowhere near the MQD requirement for gold. As soon as my address change was processed, my 2019 status was updated from silver to gold.
Unless they've changed something and haven't updated info that shouldn't have happened. Are you sure you didn't hit a MQS threshold at same time?
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I'm sure--I flew in early November before the address change and the MQMs/MQDs appeared in my account before I submitted the address change request. I didn't fly again until late December, well after my account had been updated.
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